Received: from localhost ([::1]:39516 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eUp3H-0004eg-WF; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:26:00 -0800 Received: from mail-yw0-f170.google.com ([209.85.161.170]:33267) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eUp2m-0004be-DZ for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:25:29 -0800 Received: by mail-yw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id k80so9196638ywe.0 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:25:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=XGgVNuBycFOSnRoEIb9pIwh0QeMDvLQbICLPEur59Hs=; b=gWzAJUosD6CcZilAk1G47qDXq8mU5pTDTCoAyI8NRQ5XIVHWiPQQSSwqOXHOPQ1Q7x M4Jz7N9Yo0V/xX8SNT46MWHC8Y2XNfBqr6sTrQ5zsdzsO6vgfDXRKcjoYAKNo9pUcnJw yUNnE8VUk4dJ162WSnqellyXEwbYrOE9EyMZt1MqCjf+vqXsKYXnWWjGg3WQTMbmeedJ vrsDiSsWbOvYJL0Va20LJWFq2juuiO9iduxdgbKSXLLwDwxPUKXr0YU9w5YoPGVqbAlr rLOy1DM2CJnSo239Qgyi+V9FFLTbXj2Tr50a7KdQM3HXTDPNC1x80W2Jn+msEn/xlEr1 LbgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=XGgVNuBycFOSnRoEIb9pIwh0QeMDvLQbICLPEur59Hs=; b=ZcERu+WpT62rJSA1dgrl9jn9/Rfn+PpjfRALNfxzzFrqGf7Eqy+SDpkhyfUtioS7oP XyKtXenGebfhIME0/ajf4N0IBUuFQ0m23MxsNdHdBREmod2DWYFaixnnLyPbDFs2KSHi 606DpQ8eoP6NCELeRwjXwlDthZCKli1Ajlg74iNxOBRG7z8bsVg1SltpP2OjjYDTBrw9 So9Xc/FS78ctJHiCJGkUwpGTYRuaU1dhEMvvF2M8fHR7OvCw1zNxeG5Hmu8LjDkwYKAg V91RazrsWGQEYFeiggqkP7E8dfVFQn9NbDw3HqJwnxyaJdAdXA/3Ix4Zq8eo6B7kj0Z8 LgQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJeDBXZIZkfVGqcmso1HEfhks7B3/Ow6tRGH8rdy1FzgnxMx9fb 9Ih72GJFIPEL9YpSSsAI6+dcOhGbnk/Ly3WfX0I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosW7ZGWtSpGR5+b1sqN6+GQB8jBASa53p3J7aLODyYoDojWFfYzpzCUOMMsSjCLMXSqvtqsgS7hOFlr9PhicdM= X-Received: by 10.129.172.13 with SMTP id k13mr23298118ywh.275.1514532321463; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:25:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.135.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.135.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:25:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Curtis Franks Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 02:25:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: [Llg-members] Motion proposal - Unofficialness Disclaimer X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8484023343648036355==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8484023343648036355== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045e480005949b0561758980" --f403045e480005949b0561758980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I move that: All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owned and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents are not necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the same. (This motion is intended to satisfy part of guskant's desires, related elsewhere. I copied a quasi-motion by them nearly verbatim.) ___ It is a little premature, but I raise the following concerns: =E2=80=A2 How do we decide which content should be so disclaimed? What cons= titutes "official" content for these purposes? How do we review content and, later, disclaimers - particularly in a fashion which is quick enough to handle edits made by users. =E2=80=A2 Do we even have the authority to demand or enforce such disclaime= rs? The website is a wiki and, so, can be edited by anyone and can presumably develop its own community standards. =E2=80=A2 Is this disclaimer sufficient and sufficiently descriptive for th= e relevant purposes and desires? --f403045e480005949b0561758980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I= move that: All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org=C2=A0must contain a disclaimer stating, at= least, that the website is owned and managed by voluntary
people, and that the marked contents are not nece= ssarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not reflect, = let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the same.
=
(This motion is intended to satisfy part of guskant's d= esires, related elsewhere. I copied a quasi-motion by them nearly verbatim.= )
___

It is a little premature, but = I raise the following concerns:
=E2=80=A2 How do we decide whi= ch content should be so disclaimed? What constitutes "official" c= ontent for these purposes? How do we review content and, later, disclaimers= - particularly in a fashion which is quick enough to handle edits made by = users.
=E2=80=A2 Do we even have the authority to demand or enfo= rce such disclaimers? The website is a wiki and, so, can be edited by anyon= e and can presumably develop its own community standards.
=E2=80= =A2 Is this disclaimer sufficient and sufficiently descriptive for the rele= vant purposes and desires?
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