Received: from localhost ([::1]:57198 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxHu-0006rg-NE; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:14:18 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f46.google.com ([209.85.213.46]:44964) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eZxHO-0006ph-T4 for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:13:48 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q62so481438vkb.11 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:13:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JoXzvKXNkyC+Hr3cH4Qpaio4PI8ewwgKoMRHlrJt+WQ=; b=o0Z9ml7zNHuKtfmPi5lePlJ18J78yJDFHbiZd2z5QGIPVuNkKtsZQDhjJvPrURr70i iGcz66GcZ3pd4VIhuQQqyJ9TMiBnaS2Veduz6odhHaHuuq99OIbKviApE7Smj6UMo7Zf WGMltaRxg4D6gUvAHKI3STlgI73sARrCfkt22j3twesiSxXz+GMT9sw/66xqMYThyKuL 4aZrsqkBESzTdwWhJaBeaAIVMSVXuLDTza5mM5niexvbNJIyd2aVxpmUbR0G303nKoPL fbDhDchEGnqdMN5neV/CTIaGE4vltuhZLftSAaPSEU78IHaMJ/sVhn3FHnnSfw/Fe9fl RXPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=JoXzvKXNkyC+Hr3cH4Qpaio4PI8ewwgKoMRHlrJt+WQ=; b=eyX7D3ZY07hxYctxAZF6T/h1Ok4AmE4BrNrB2HZF0O0GeH+kmGYFBwPvxS+OXMhEm+ p6iE+5Nzvr4SAZDVbUJvphf4LIVXdeym/D7kHJhwVrYsrLsgocdfTXsFlFSS6LbqwBey du/Dxqzz+00OYwNUSMV0TehXxvnx4gMCCez7uGLxIYsTjuq4Qa/u+S2PWrYLqd6JYLsg iSHJAxakYOZBiGilKPQcFgllf+mn1CJWLJ9Th7fGbvYdhXKh981Gcuj8NghFUJWe4Z6I 4nazjJs2DglAL06uNNBCKe2rZajzK+kkGBiG0K0rT9CRXYkAI0WsUlJBolHEo58/+l4r WLSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytewQXOg2z39RZXbYXl8wY9RCmUToOT+kNMx0xVaQy2k2rVt1u+4 nAIYNDZeINsS/qWNxHSVoiQB0/D6vRqKzEB5dFs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovvQWtJU/TYrTXOXAphYpthIDBS1M4IoFrz2W1KaabhbOq5GXql8yF4G+K2wTxyzlUm7wWuxLX+5oAUUraLfCY= X-Received: by 10.31.155.82 with SMTP id d79mr23815249vke.119.1515755619876; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:13:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.7.70 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.7.70 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:13:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Creative Care Services Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:13:38 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Motions regarding LLG goals X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3547490088820403407==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3547490088820403407== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11425afa4a04930562925bca" --001a11425afa4a04930562925bca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you for the information, Cowen. .karis. On Jan 12, 2018 00:24, "John Cowan" wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:21 AM, Creative Care Services < > comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote: > > Please tarot discussion on these morons to this thread [...] >> > > zo'o > > >> Motion 1. The LLG shall adopt, as a principal goal of the LLG (coequal >> with any other principal goals), the intention of exploration and promotion >> of logical language(s) in general, subject to the following definitional >> framework and description: Presupposing that everything effable (i.e. >> linguistically expressible) can be represented as a predicate-argument >> structure (PAS), a logical language (in the technical sense, i.e. loglang) >> is one that (syntactically-)unambiguously bidirectionally encodes an >> unlimited number of PASs. (Also known by some as the 'monoparsing' >> property. The relevant bidirectionality is conversion both from PAS to >> phonological form and from phonological form to PAS.) >> >> >> Seconded. >> >> >> Motion 2. A principal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other >> principal goals) is promotion of Lojban (regardless of its status as a >> logical language) as defined by documents endorsed by the LLG. >> >> >> I likewise (same wording) so move, with terms as described in my >> immediately previous motion in this message. >> >> >> Seconded. >> >> >> Motion 3. A principal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other >> principal goals) is creation of a Lojban derivative that is a logical >> language. >> >> >> Seconded. >> > > As these motions do not contradict the bylaws but merely supplement them, > they are valid main motions that will pass with a majority of the legal > votes cast. They will not, however, become part of the bylaws, but simply > standing LLG policy; therefore, they can be amended or removed by ordinary > main motions at a future meeting, if that should seem desirable. > > -- > John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org > If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on > the shoulders of giants. --Isaac Newton > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --001a11425afa4a04930562925bca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you for the information, Cowen.=C2=A0

.karis.=C2=A0


On = Jan 12, 2018 00:24, "John Cowan" <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:


On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:21 AM, Creative Care Services = <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:

Please tarot discussion on these morons to this thread [...]
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zo'o
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Motion 1. The LLG shall adopt, as a princ= ipal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other principal goals), the intentio= n of exploration and promotion of logical language(s) in general, subject t= o the following definitional framework and description: Presupposing that e= verything effable (i.e. linguistically expressible) can be represented as a= predicate-argument structure (PAS), a logical language (in the technical s= ense, i.e. loglang) is one that (syntactically-)unambiguously bidirectional= ly encodes an unlimited number of PASs. (Also known by some as the 'mon= oparsing' property. The relevant bidirectionality is conversion both fr= om PAS to phonological form and from phonological form to PAS.)

Seconded.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Motion 2. A principal goal of the LLG (coequal with any ot= her principal goals) is promotion of Lojban (regardless of its status as a = logical language) as defined by documents endorsed by the LLG.


I= likewise (same wording) so move, with terms as described in my immediately= previous motion in this message.

Seconded.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Motion 3. A p= rincipal goal of the LLG (coequal with any other principal goals) is creati= on of a Lojban derivative that is a logical language.=C2=A0

Seconded.

= As these motions do not contradict the bylaws but merely supplement them, t= hey are valid main motions that will pass with a majority of the legal vote= s cast.=C2=A0 They will not, however, become part of the bylaws, but simply= standing LLG policy; therefore, they can be amended or removed by ordinary= main motions at a future meeting, if that should seem desirable.

--=C2=A0
John Cowan=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 htt= p://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cowan@ccil.org
If I = have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on
th= e shoulders of giants.=C2=A0 --Isaac Newton


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