Received: from localhost ([::1]:57392 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eaU12-00053r-UM; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:11:04 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f43.google.com ([209.85.213.43]:42054) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eaU0W-00052a-Kh for llg-members@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:10:34 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id t4so5559290vkb.9 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:10:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=i37jna1XfR2rxuuWbXUxU8N3uL/ew30vosrf9ps/UuE=; b=HJxKzjm6uzz6Ro4fLnt3UV3qP3yxCACs/rO1EcEbLnRJ963CmBix6TROouVam+1qUC dc8eisTdN4QzSSZG3q66gekAjBpSornmGBzoKDWp4+8mh6QojkH5BMKzPJSX0JnCRcTP XfYiy3YuXx8mft7JcDB1qi/rtqhV9dzYWyBQdIy/5eRSODkVsybejO9sOT5B3VfGGp6Q H/udql795WaS1TGlezzj1E6ip4oiiSoX1KQepbVPm2qKyiVAojMJkEApvwMtW3uBm+5P Odh9vZxASfMBPy3js1mExwx56gG5Tsj9amK+5DWDbL2tYP1q9YK4Mv41MlM/CeyFyGo9 OhYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=i37jna1XfR2rxuuWbXUxU8N3uL/ew30vosrf9ps/UuE=; b=Z0koKRJzu3m/1R643y3A0YWmMwIYGFKKm4pXLBhsMFB422csD+sUYHd3OQeXDNlJn1 pAkywnCDZhvLunKVe8P4lzKHJpKF+9i9CyDGEevHZ9zcaNvJOPv4m0gOSd/fDxjwsWRx yieCena6PP4IhP4G0gstfM54xnl+iXZ6mEMP9ctSZfBUEE0waxkz/CVt7Jj4ZRFxxgUn jF9+YG6vA7pgUSQsLVcF8fcXhuCtD3z1kZ6HK9L+yzBy+tiVNG7Uh8rLPy0HLZVUHSbs sfsMmXUGbWYwBDaT2Z9VOq01UebRP4baA3sT3UvyGfud7asiz49/xn/RI6h7sP/rfbO1 d2Kw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytciNOpdEmy6Wz+F9A1zfH4lh7uhdKBSBardDQcXPVBwTtNeEwZa OtKwCZSMABt6eNal7e/jXcu9A4LRlIQDcHxfo9OXQg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBos16rZOVOejrcBwv38Hca89vwr4J9VguGkGw1MtLM0r37+QzKQCoFvGtzxBLGEKJuWdAPDgGCb4IOIBKA+bvb4= X-Received: by 10.31.216.7 with SMTP id p7mr26109593vkg.179.1515881425360; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:10:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.7.70 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:10:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4734149.Ac4Tda036i@caracal> From: Creative Care Services Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:10:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Motion proposal - Unofficialness Disclaimer X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7759959976652080084==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7759959976652080084== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114eaf5ce15ce70562afa515" --001a114eaf5ce15ce70562afa515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I now open this topic to a vote on the following proposal: All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owned and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents are not necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the same. Voting will be closed no sooner than noon on January 16, 2018 GMT. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Curtis Franks wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2018 03:20, "Creative Care Services" > wrote: > >> Thank you, Pierre. >> >> We now have a motion on the floor that has been made and seconded. I ask >> that all discussion of this motion, and only such discussion take place in >> this thread. As a point, since we have people in attendance who are not >> officially members I am making it clear that anyone can make comments, post >> ideas, respond to ideas and proposals, and ask questions. We appreciate >> your interest. >> >> Discussion will be open until 12:00 noon GMT on January 9, 2018, or until >> it appears to me that the discussion is no longer active before then. Other >> discussions will continue in other threads. Because my intent is to >> complete this meeting fairly soon without having to push topics to the next >> meeting just because of time I would like to carry out similar processes in >> parallel I ask for a ruling on the appropriatness of such action. >> >> Thank you. >> >> .karis. >> >> On Jan 5, 2018 02:11, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: >> >> On Friday, January 5, 2018 1:46:41 AM EST Creative Care Services wrote: >> > Ok, with multiple seconds it is necessary to clarify which motion we >> will >> > be voting on and whether at least one second is specifically for that >> > motion. >> > >> > I therefore am restating what the first motion was : >> > >> > Curtis moved that, " I move that: All non-official pages or content on >> *. >> > lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the >> website is >> > owned and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents are >> not >> > necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not >> > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of the >> > same." >> > >> > Is there a second for this only? >> >> I second this. >> >> Pierre >> >> -- >> loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --001a114eaf5ce15ce70562afa515 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I now open this topic to a vote on the following proposal:=

All n= on-official pages or content on *.lojban.org=C2=A0must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the website = is owned and managed by voluntary
= people, and that the marked contents are not necessarily harmonized with th= e official design of Lojban and may not reflect, let alone perfectly comply= with, official specifications of the same.

<= span style=3D"font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">Voting will be close= d no sooner than noon on January 16, 2018 GMT.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:20= AM, Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> wrote= :

On Jan 5, 2018 03:20, "Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Thank you, Pierre.

We now have a motion on the floor that has been made and seconded. I ask = that all discussion of this motion, and only such discussion take place in = this thread. As a point, since we have people in attendance who are not off= icially members I am making it clear that anyone can make comments, post id= eas, respond to ideas and proposals, and ask questions. We appreciate your = interest.=C2=A0

Discussi= on will be open until 12:00 noon GMT on January 9, 2018, or until it appear= s to me that the discussion is no longer active before then. Other discussi= ons will continue in other threads. Because my intent is to complete this m= eeting fairly soon without having to push topics to the next meeting just b= ecause of time I would like to carry out similar processes in parallel I as= k for a ruling on the appropriatness of such action.=C2=A0

Thank you.=C2=A0
=
.karis.=C2=A0

On Jan 5, 2018 02:11, "Pierre Abbat" <<= a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org= > wrote:
On Friday, January 5, 2018 1:46:41 AM EST Creative Care= Services wrote:
> Ok, with multiple seconds it is necessary to clarify which motion we w= ill
> be voting on and whether at least one second is specifically for that<= br> > motion.
>
> I therefore am restating what the first motion was :
>
> Curtis moved that, " I move that: All non-official pages or conte= nt on *.
> lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the web= site is
> ow= ned and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents are not > necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not<= br> > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of t= he
> same."
>
> Is there a second for this only?

I second this.

Pierre

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