Received: from localhost ([::1]:47162 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ebveK-0004cA-NR; Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:53:36 -0800 Received: from mail-ot0-f182.google.com ([74.125.82.182]:34284) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ebvdo-0004aA-6B for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:53:05 -0800 Received: by mail-ot0-f182.google.com with SMTP id p16so18231098otf.1 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KeNM+hGpfPaVRgPB+MLOOkSEUWxvBnV+t+GO2AHM3U4=; b=nAIDjbT1S9JQ2tvk9jbh+8jYy2VZJNWxvRBhFVvJo8IAAIWLrijvnkE78AAxE0fqRC P9vs1XvoTrtExFhKF+Po5V157jqE5IYPxGmaW6mJbn0ekTmst5iEKxFCNcD9q9JHCpy2 PhR1GYbLk47kPCL4ZDdgDR3kQhV/r79NyUCD7npZfJP9zodhNy05BF6znoQfVkLQA7ZT 4TKctkaw5VQhVHyFxAC5jmsLeDnj5Am8pPct/aqtKKY8DVrOa3ymnj/ULYvenevVgABd yniwHPf3aMCVsa4oJSxw58xBqr2lusj/awaAKcbexaJBzYotTQSn/JrUplufTsPhp18z iNFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=KeNM+hGpfPaVRgPB+MLOOkSEUWxvBnV+t+GO2AHM3U4=; b=LBA49ga8fUCItSCU8pF2HkJAKN35gnK2mb7YP+hKj2NH+A/Wcx+/iR/udDqOe60IE/ U9OVFRGaY9GxoFf/r9Vkc59PSj5LCRT8JtGaMUxDV8sUZ2HetolQUpshdi+n0DV29Bkf yK3FZVCl4fRpg34LKEXZwKhqQ3B/uK+xHV/laTAsMPckt8h8L4WrzLmEKo+6ejGfcIW8 HF9MF+kZlqNfqYDvC1CaC8KKUBVPHpAHE4cMU25NkrDwWc6PRBFtxTcFhWXVcM8g/ddg oQcfdY0NPz8F5ETYhMtmIfRfQAbTtulTkiqgwrlzKZoe1wuqMy+fm3z9ZB791rcnkVRl mS3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytek401jwNfjPOvPou5uOMJn2/P6dcgq7tadn2/so5rTklbjRfjl Rckb7FFgz4vwNQF2nKhLNq9N/eG64CBnDjqnQso= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovPS2GY2066vXW+Pd7inXofsNvqGn7dKp7uFb3xMHH13DyZrdh1J6DofgiI7fVeUzsNA8hFJ3ptV/fVZOCMULk= X-Received: by 10.157.74.50 with SMTP id h47mr1972539otf.247.1516225976976; Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:52:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4734149.Ac4Tda036i@caracal> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Lopresto Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 21:52:46 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Motion proposal - Unofficialness Disclaimer X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4426164420863388742==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============4426164420863388742== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c092484c1ca120562ffde98" --94eb2c092484c1ca120562ffde98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I vote Nay. On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 4:11 PM Creative Care Services < comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote: > I now open this topic to a vote on the following proposal: > > All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org must contain a > disclaimer stating, at least, that the website is owned and managed by > voluntary > > people, and that the marked contents are not necessarily harmonized with > the official design of Lojban and may not reflect, let alone perfectly > comply with, official specifications of the same. > > Voting will be closed no sooner than noon on January 16, 2018 GMT. > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Curtis Franks > wrote: > >> >> On Jan 5, 2018 03:20, "Creative Care Services" >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Pierre. >>> >>> We now have a motion on the floor that has been made and seconded. I ask >>> that all discussion of this motion, and only such discussion take place in >>> this thread. As a point, since we have people in attendance who are not >>> officially members I am making it clear that anyone can make comments, post >>> ideas, respond to ideas and proposals, and ask questions. We appreciate >>> your interest. >>> >>> Discussion will be open until 12:00 noon GMT on January 9, 2018, or >>> until it appears to me that the discussion is no longer active before then. >>> Other discussions will continue in other threads. Because my intent is to >>> complete this meeting fairly soon without having to push topics to the next >>> meeting just because of time I would like to carry out similar processes in >>> parallel I ask for a ruling on the appropriatness of such action. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> .karis. >>> >>> On Jan 5, 2018 02:11, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, January 5, 2018 1:46:41 AM EST Creative Care Services wrote: >>> > Ok, with multiple seconds it is necessary to clarify which motion we >>> will >>> > be voting on and whether at least one second is specifically for that >>> > motion. >>> > >>> > I therefore am restating what the first motion was : >>> > >>> > Curtis moved that, " I move that: All non-official pages or content on >>> *. >>> > lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the >>> website is >>> > owned and managed by voluntary people, and that the marked contents >>> are not >>> > necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not >>> > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of >>> the >>> > same." >>> > >>> > Is there a second for this only? >>> >>> I second this. >>> >>> Pierre >>> >>> -- >>> loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c092484c1ca120562ffde98 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I vote Nay.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 4:11 PM Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
I now open this topic to a= vote on the following proposal:

All non-official pages or content on *.lojban.org=C2=A0must contain a disclaimer stat= ing, at least, that the website is owned and managed by voluntary

people, and that the marked contents are not necessarily harmonized with = the official design of Lojban and may not reflect, let alone perfectly comp= ly with, official specifications of the same.
<= div dir=3D"ltr">

Voting will be closed no sooner than noon on Jan= uary 16, 2018 GMT.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 5, 2018 03:20, "Creative Care Services&qu= ot; <comcares= vcs@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Pierre.

We now have a motion on the floor that has been made and se= conded. I ask that all discussion of this motion, and only such discussion = take place in this thread. As a point, since we have people in attendance w= ho are not officially members I am making it clear that anyone can make com= ments, post ideas, respond to ideas and proposals, and ask questions. We ap= preciate your interest.=C2=A0

Discussion will be open until 12:00 noon GMT on January 9, 2018, or u= ntil it appears to me that the discussion is no longer active before then. = Other discussions will continue in other threads. Because my intent is to c= omplete this meeting fairly soon without having to push topics to the next = meeting just because of time I would like to carry out similar processes in= parallel I ask for a ruling on the appropriatness of such action.=C2=A0

Thank you.=C2=A0

.karis.=C2=A0

On Jan 5, 2018 02:11, "Pierre Abb= at" <phma@be= zitopo.org> wrote:
On Friday, January 5, 2018 1:46:41 AM EST Creative Care Services wrote: > Ok, with multiple seconds it is necessary to clarify which motion we w= ill
> be voting on and whether at least one second is specifically for that<= br> > motion.
>
> I therefore am restating what the first motion was :
>
> Curtis moved that, " I move that: All non-official pages or conte= nt on *.
> lojban.org must contain a disclaimer stating, at least, that the web= site is
> owned and managed by voluntary people, and that the mark= ed contents are not
> necessarily harmonized with the official design of Lojban and may not<= br> > reflect, let alone perfectly comply with, official specifications of t= he
> same."
>
> Is there a second for this only?

I second this.

Pierre

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