Received: from localhost ([::1]:49336 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f0Lp4-0006kq-3K; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:41:38 -0700 Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:44089) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f0LoX-0006jY-AH for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:41:07 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j143-v6so6194179oih.11 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:41:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UjrOz1Zdkz+P9aLFZFk7NDpJW3Rbfb2W9feurF3yRRw=; b=BZk2CmzU22VXRkU3RjR+oaR+m0x1i+YsOaeGEc6Yd9cJk8HPdGIwDck/k+Cvbi9Aqd O8KT8ccG2XTyPKWfqbv/Hyn+4mQQANYq5auORcuoizUtXTVa8c5bmMYBmSTPYnhIanoV SYXBP02/Cy+xpy1XBvv8S+iZc+0SALl2IXYPmcKIOw7qCwXq/uS/3vflyzzTkegL0xHX sBD76JtLUMd+osDnQqe8rQbkQ3AOjEVd5TB7QKzLLuD+o41SUM2ZlKKF5V4Iu5CnKAcV t6lGdDZA8feY6XmyCXLz4qFmwpOEtaQS/UaTfZLCldJX9wQMTR2qJAxeLNz2R3RAipRb WMIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=UjrOz1Zdkz+P9aLFZFk7NDpJW3Rbfb2W9feurF3yRRw=; b=Zmu84QXmQZYxiFXK8ptC+QU8o/xBJ2KexXX4lhH4YZtNsYAKN9XSMyVK0HTeIp7Y/j O+WCFCSsv3njgESub4qsG/YMtmjCA9YL502m1QwJ8nRODNNACOIbibY47vYjPnOImM0P 9s8jYl5UuuafPAqDU291QltJ9j3O9SKdtClKUqBlZ3mcxqWHEliR5LrfdYFAIBEXtxer ws7x/2Hj9Pzd/lxI1cL4gAjj5xB3gW8EBNm3Jl6agCRTLIuE9liPUTGLqkygbUcFKyJB e9MbizwQ62aV7A3VVDGlRC/AfvAOXWgRv1btN24RzsaLi2xCAoO8GwKGd2Ldtf8QduJk mp6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7HlOYWDS4vCVBP6LTeTFBxFSJ2BgPxP93JnBbJMOP3swsSX5z3s rJ4uEXfCcj0kXeJ56dWaHS+QsR1ix0gtsVy+Ww== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtHqUTd3yjZlfzSNQhZQX0RBSh1AI9IxLJVpoz0MY13N38iY8CwXBlzdYjcMGccURdhnTGLtqJj+5CeBrn5dsg= X-Received: by 10.202.253.141 with SMTP id b135mr22810339oii.312.1522046458466; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:40:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.201.90.72 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:40:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:40:18 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] next meeting format X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6369754982140090874==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6369754982140090874== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113ded527d17a605684b0ee9" --001a113ded527d17a605684b0ee9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2018-03-26 2:17 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > My concern with Slack is our need for a full record despite the number of > posts. All the groups I'm in that use it hit that limit quite quickly. > > As for Discord, I know we can organize it to cover multiple topics each in > their own thread. The issue with it is threading takes significant > management as it isn't at all automatic. I have seen it done, though, and I > know who to ask for help. > I propose NOT to use threading in any way. That is one thread for everything. This way it will be quite easy to copy logs e.g. every day by just selecting text from the browser. Slack also has plugins that allow export with threads but I'm currently not sure how to save such threads into e.g. mw.lojban.org or any other sort of permanent "clay tablets". If people want to discuss several topics at once they can do so sequentially, not in parallel. *I also propose* either Google Docs or PiratePad for writing out proposals such as amendments to bylaws etc. Voting can be done by writing down your names in the pad. In the chat one can warn that e.g. he/she didn't vote but his/her name for some reason appeared in the piratepad. > > I know other sites exist for managing discussion groups, but I don't have > familiarity with them. Does anyone else? > > .karis. > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 15:28 Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > >> So I propose either Slack or Discord or IRC for the next meeting. >> >> Telegram requires having a phone number, which some members might not >> have so this option should be avoided imo. >> >> On Slack Lojbanists already have an informal Lojbanic place. Everyone can >> create a new room there. Registering is possible via >> https://slaka.herokuapp.com Chat logs are preserved for a few days. >> >> On Discord Lojbanists have https://discord.gg/c8weYzf Chat logs are >> preserved. >> >> Everyone here knows what is IRC. Chat logs are not preserved unless you >> use specific software. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Creative Care Services >> Date: 2018-03-25 21:49 GMT+03:00 >> Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Tabulation of votes, motion to adjourn >> To: llg-members@lojban.org >> >> >> As I believe that is sufficient votes, I hereby declare the 2017 meeting >> of the LLG Membership adjourned. Further, less official discussion is >> welcome in this chat. >> >> .karis. >> President, Logical Language Group >> >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 12:18 LLG Secretary wrote: >> >>> Per request of the president, here is a tabulation of votes on the >>> motion to adjourn. >>> >>> Aye (10): >>> Pierre >>> Lojbab >>> Curtis >>> Karis >>> Adam >>> Ilmen >>> Riley >>> Alex >>> Veion >>> Ali >>> >>> Abstain (1): >>> guskant >>> >>> No (1): >>> selpa'i >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --001a113ded527d17a605684b0ee9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2018-03-26 2:17 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <= comcaresvcs@gmai= l.com>:
<= div dir=3D"auto">My concern with Slack is our need for a full record despit= e the number of posts. All the groups I'm in that use it hit that limit= quite quickly.=C2=A0

As for D= iscord, I know we can organize it to cover multiple topics each in their ow= n thread. The issue with it is threading takes significant management as it= isn't at all automatic. I have seen it done, though, and I know who to= ask for help.=C2=A0

I pr= opose NOT to use threading in any way. That is one thread for everything.

This way it will be quite easy to copy logs e.g. ev= ery day by just selecting text from the browser.
Slack also has p= lugins that allow export with threads but I'm currently not sure how to= save such threads into e.g. mw.lojban.org= or any other sort of permanent "clay tablets".
If people want to discuss several topics at once they can do so= sequentially, not in parallel.

I also propose<= /b> either Google Docs or PiratePad=C2=A0for writing out proposals such as amendm= ents to bylaws etc. Voting can be done by writing down your names in the pa= d. In the chat one can warn that e.g. he/she didn't vote but his/her na= me for some reason appeared in the piratepad.

=C2= =A0

I know other sites exist for= managing discussion groups, but I don't have familiarity with them. Do= es anyone else?=C2=A0

.k= aris.=C2=A0


On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 15:28 Gleki = Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
=
So I propose either Slack or Discord or IRC for the next meeting.

Telegram requires having a phone number, which some me= mbers might not have so this option should be avoided imo.

On Slack Lojbanists already have an informal Lojbanic place. Everyone c= an create a new room there. Registering is possible via https:= //slaka.herokuapp.com Chat logs are preserved for a few days.

<= /div>
On Discord Lojbanists have=C2=A0https://discord.gg/c8weYzf Chat logs are preserved.

Everyone h= ere knows what is IRC. Chat logs are not preserved unless you use specific = software.

---------- Forwarded messa= ge ----------
From: Creative Care Services= <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>
Date: 2018-03-25 21:49 GMT+03:00
Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Tabula= tion of votes, motion to adjourn
To: llg-members@lojban.o= rg


As I believe that is sufficient votes,= =C2=A0 I hereby declare the 2017 meeting of the LLG Membership adjourned. F= urther, less official discussion is welcome in this chat.
=
.karis.=C2=A0
President,= Logical Language Group

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 12:18 LLG Secre= tary <shunpiker@gmail.com> wrote:
Per request of the president, here = is a tabulation of votes on the motion to adjourn.

Aye (10):
Pierre
Lojbab
Curtis
Karis
Adam
Ilmen
Riley
Alex
Veion
Ali

Abstain (1):
guskant

No (1):
selpa'i


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