Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60984 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fE5Wq-000452-Jt; Wed, 02 May 2018 21:07:36 -0700 Received: from mail-ua0-f172.google.com ([209.85.217.172]:35122) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fE5WK-00043g-Ar for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 02 May 2018 21:07:06 -0700 Received: by mail-ua0-f172.google.com with SMTP id a2so10499128uak.2 for ; Wed, 02 May 2018 21:07:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=WUaMfr3GLHyz70z6qlq7Mbq/vBJH+Okn1NA63m7xWTc=; b=mjJzAHAX+x3SGPjQH676nEI203O69v0Pq3+jZoAs9HB9ME3SAkV3bChUEWCqVaAzYw Rtm5G9EInApulGAI3cksdQ60tlfIowVnwWdl/lWoFAuzqe1pB4noc3uWWRIJkzqUiU7f u+deIyT/EbH2be7R3/FswITMRsvEUSKFqrv/28W4+KGLnpmsuWS9veLynziQwvMjtskz VQ2vNnqTuHC8nkgXydZnjSwvBHJNkq0By5tSldoQ+MvhzusgBn3kS5LggX/PXWLJoBbf nAZKpMnMei9Xr1Y0ncqi7JA7/23UqTfAeKVVesHKJQ9Kbv7PWskDoIr81faC18i2EM22 exeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=WUaMfr3GLHyz70z6qlq7Mbq/vBJH+Okn1NA63m7xWTc=; b=uZ5lWvk+Iifyg1L9VoM9VJAPUyVIsBwRO6hMjzx2cPXuBUq4qNNCRY/659f01fzNXM +rSVL8dgmsZg5pM4Mu+vjh+98luX4LLbU7q4q48jyc6y5G3h4NBkkWcECMNjb7AFDdrq GtXCfftIS1phsmi3500wyMYtno1ZATp2jSx+3VS0XpTxPBRzOe68jcwVXc4FsPk23JVn 5ZzDjmaXoc7pLbtR2s9dl5o5hc/d9bUzOKoYhhM4KJL2COEMFX1S0wg4uWH1XksS2+TJ KPgF4c+kAc7m8Vf+e0JVDp9j+Z7xEc3rfgByrzm47Od27IswcdwWnDQAWhcmKavdyCqt bZ5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBVBcXQUe1BVorja7ypGOlFbLJG89YuB5uJ+gN26spJlkHl57nF zS3HLblFnIUJcUPHtAXaFD/v6O2s2TV6WI6l/z4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZptJGij3Wab+cN6j/NnPGEUH1CyE4XMAgaJMHFZbDfDAq82L/6kFwdjGC01VCldjOK3T63qv+C1JY2PiMnIjCA= X-Received: by 10.176.112.57 with SMTP id u25mr19738877ual.60.1525320417586; Wed, 02 May 2018 21:06:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Creative Care Services Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 04:06:47 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] next meeting format X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7886449739536976992==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7886449739536976992== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e082e09a0a8b26d056b4555c9" --089e082e09a0a8b26d056b4555c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" While Discord only imitates threads by having someone decide to start a new topic to cover the "thread" just started I've seen it done this way. As long as the permissions are set correctly we would all have the option of adding new topics at any time. In that way subtopics do not need to be determined in advance,but can be added under broad preset topics. I've been playing around with it some. .karis. On Wed, May 2, 2018, 15:08 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > > 2018-05-02 21:30 GMT+03:00 Ilmen : > >> How about using channel categories as threads? >> > > Person A utters something and this message must have an ability to start a > new thread. > > Here is how it's done in Slack: > http://joxi.net/Dr8Xo51tkwO3Or > Any message can become a seed to a whole thread. > Channel categories are forethought things. You can not know beforehand > which topics will be raised or (sic!) what a certain topic will *shift > into*. > > Ideally, we'd want a tree-like structure > 1. like commenting system at jbovlaste.lojban.org or > 2. like when one creates new threads by changing topics of email messages > and other people replying to particular messages. Not chaning the topic of > en email message equals to continuing the thread, changing the topic means > opening a new thread. > > > > (we may even consider a hypergraph system like > https://github.com/woost/wust but it could be an overkill) > > > > >> I don't know what Discord permission is needed to be able to create new >> #-categories but I suppose it is possible to give all the members this >> power somehow. >> >> >> Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> >> Among self-hosted ones >> Mattermost supports threads (Mattermost can be installed e.g. via >> https://github.com/mozilla/mattermost-heroku/). >> Rocket.Chats do not support threads: >> https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1112 >> >> Self-hosting software seems to me like an overkill. >> >> Also note that Slack retains not more than 10,000 messages in its free of >> charge plan. >> >> >> 2018-04-30 8:33 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : >> >>> I prefer threads. >>> >>> ~~~ Curtis W. Franks >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 01:25 Gleki Arxokuna >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2018-04-30 4:43 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : >>>> >>>>> According to this ( >>>>> https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/15859336-threaded-text-chat >>>>> ), which is not even a month old, it seems to be impossible. I see multiple >>>>> other requests for the same feature going back several years, so it seems >>>>> that either it is impossible or a decent fraction of the prospective >>>>> Discord community does not know how to do it (of course, my search is going >>>>> to bias my results). >>>>> >>>>> I should add that I did not read the entire page all the way - just a >>>>> few comments in order to make sure that no-one immediately told the >>>>> original poster that threading is indeed possible. If someone did so later >>>>> on, though, then I definitely missed it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Neither does Gitter: >>>> https://gitter.im/gitterHQ/topics/topic/57f4e71fe581953f7e9b9833/integrating-topics-with-chat >>>> >>>> We then need to decide if we need threads that is whether we shall >>>> discuss several topics in parallel. >>>> If some of us do then we need to think of software that supports it. As >>>> I said Slack does. Maybe other (or other self hosted) software can do that, >>>> idk. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ~~~ Curtis >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Garanti >> sans virus. www.avast.com >> >> <#m_-7232695933045875570_m_-2489832248397018812_m_5150670592946191930_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --089e082e09a0a8b26d056b4555c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
While Discord only imitates threads by having someon= e decide to start a new topic to cover the "thread" just started = I've seen it done this way. As long as the permissions are set correctl= y we would all have the option of adding new topics at any time. In that wa= y subtopics do not need to be determined in advance,but can be added under = broad preset topics. I've been playing around with it some.=C2=A0
=

.karis.=C2=A0

On Wed, May 2, 2018, 15:08= Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2018-05-02 21:30 GMT+03:00 Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com>:<= br>
=20 =20 =20
How about using channel categories as threads?

Person A utters something and this message must have an a= bility to start a new thread.

Here is how it's= done in Slack:

2. like when one creates new threads by changin= g topics of email messages and other people replying to particular messages= . Not chaning the topic of en email message equals to continuing the thread= , changing the topic means opening a new thread.

<= br>

(we may even consider a hypergraph system like= https://github.com/woost/wust but it could be an overki= ll)


=C2=A0
I don't know what Discord permission is needed to be able to create new #-categories but I suppose it is possible to give all the members this power somehow.


Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

2018-04-30 8:33 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com= >:
I prefer threads.

~~~ Curtis W. Franks

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 01:25 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.= com> wrote:


2018-04-30 4:43 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com>:
According to this (=C2=A0https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-lan= d/suggestions/15859336-threaded-text-chat ), which is not even a month old, it seems to be impossible. I see multiple other requests for the same feature going back several years, so it seems that either it is impossible or a decent fraction of the prospective Discord community does not know how to do it (of course, my search is going to bias my results).

I should add that I did not read the entire page all the way - just a few comments in order to make sure that no-one immediately told the original poster that threading is indeed possible. If someone did so later on, though, then I definitely missed it.


We then need to decide if we need threads that is whether we shall discuss several topics in parallel.
If some of us do then we need to think of software that supports it. As I said Slack does. Maybe other (or other self hosted) software can do that, idk.

=C2=A0


~~~ Curtis



3D"" Garanti sans v= irus. www.avast.com

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