Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48168 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fEmPv-0000kZ-OP; Fri, 04 May 2018 18:55:19 -0700 Received: from mail-vk0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:36081) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fEmPO-0000iR-Io for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 18:54:48 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id i185-v6so9311336vkg.3 for ; Fri, 04 May 2018 18:54:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lP612eMNWktOQR5jbMcR33UjSg1LHOuHy/cImWNrAjg=; b=sfB4E6Y+hPgfXNchqhb6tCBAe866fV7xA/MMkrxBmgEPmLdJ7oYD190eOYB6DLMUus OtpRQ60o+cAZ2wl74+ccF2Fc1JSbLA//3BbH6w67r3jit4rRVaB+I823SfAZTTPDinpg RXcJBYRqYQkyACWpWRrmkD8uLFyqyKMPxInMTBpagLsaApXIcK2qkGxcZbhK3impXkdi PffnW92sVyp2sT5fIt8mwDc4VfzeAeVm6bmcthjDYzmVri2Jc95+y+TtbJViY/b352WW dr48v20Ir+XrV/sW/1dNJaT7Nr4EURftCAy86wdZ02qN8sLwZiiozajUw+S2Tgvq7ogk cF6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=lP612eMNWktOQR5jbMcR33UjSg1LHOuHy/cImWNrAjg=; b=JY8udq+NqhAJSRFVqoHSDxCCMZtBmpp9ibrxN0F9J99JMe0co6itZDMj1R1wkM6+VD zp6k0zAq75BJ99ZtGCoh8+EuXmcOIjU8Bf7GPKmGCIsxBmNniB4lgghzUND+9ICduKrH ZYGzcEQv1Xz75ZMkQEhp6LC+bTa4xSNOypUCYkYtKWxrooyWO2O98az6qgYUlLnDlDal B9YP5g1OdMXoKI+EdTNsbmH9WH1RE8I+IgeURKdUMsSH3sP0qn0K2yO79ULH+R0LrCDj 48af6C6XZxL59Vjz43JX2mFVmHbbiEye05CzaOeFqrdQEYY/XijtwVkC6+zMhrseWyVN 5j5A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCALCVLncgbHm1DMNvx9rl8GhoPKgi0q4iEOlOxHolRpb6KNhp3 HpAIrsXb2y/PeNyoNIvDx+udNvjTu+7N2PfK6qc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpNYLgW7eGyZrL08pKBnDwZ+QuzAh27dRdZbGqI/RnjvuzGhbLoCmlBNcSMdLzwAQo+XN3jRgO023wuj6qt9YE= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1551:: with SMTP id 78-v6mr12677656vkv.174.1525485279181; Fri, 04 May 2018 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Creative Care Services Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 01:54:28 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] next meeting format X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5078843252179540110==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5078843252179540110== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002cff48056b6bb801" --0000000000002cff48056b6bb801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Woost might be great, except it's being updated and apparently isn't Woost. I also haven't ever used it so would want to take a look first since I'm currently President. .karis. On Wed, May 2, 2018, 15:08 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > > 2018-05-02 21:30 GMT+03:00 Ilmen : > >> How about using channel categories as threads? >> > > Person A utters something and this message must have an ability to start a > new thread. > > Here is how it's done in Slack: > http://joxi.net/Dr8Xo51tkwO3Or > Any message can become a seed to a whole thread. > Channel categories are forethought things. You can not know beforehand > which topics will be raised or (sic!) what a certain topic will *shift > into*. > > Ideally, we'd want a tree-like structure > 1. like commenting system at jbovlaste.lojban.org or > 2. like when one creates new threads by changing topics of email messages > and other people replying to particular messages. Not chaning the topic of > en email message equals to continuing the thread, changing the topic means > opening a new thread. > > > > (we may even consider a hypergraph system like > https://github.com/woost/wust but it could be an overkill) > > > > >> I don't know what Discord permission is needed to be able to create new >> #-categories but I suppose it is possible to give all the members this >> power somehow. >> >> >> Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> >> Among self-hosted ones >> Mattermost supports threads (Mattermost can be installed e.g. via >> https://github.com/mozilla/mattermost-heroku/). >> Rocket.Chats do not support threads: >> https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1112 >> >> Self-hosting software seems to me like an overkill. >> >> Also note that Slack retains not more than 10,000 messages in its free of >> charge plan. >> >> >> 2018-04-30 8:33 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : >> >>> I prefer threads. >>> >>> ~~~ Curtis W. Franks >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 01:25 Gleki Arxokuna >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2018-04-30 4:43 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : >>>> >>>>> According to this ( >>>>> https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/15859336-threaded-text-chat >>>>> ), which is not even a month old, it seems to be impossible. I see multiple >>>>> other requests for the same feature going back several years, so it seems >>>>> that either it is impossible or a decent fraction of the prospective >>>>> Discord community does not know how to do it (of course, my search is going >>>>> to bias my results). >>>>> >>>>> I should add that I did not read the entire page all the way - just a >>>>> few comments in order to make sure that no-one immediately told the >>>>> original poster that threading is indeed possible. If someone did so later >>>>> on, though, then I definitely missed it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Neither does Gitter: >>>> https://gitter.im/gitterHQ/topics/topic/57f4e71fe581953f7e9b9833/integrating-topics-with-chat >>>> >>>> We then need to decide if we need threads that is whether we shall >>>> discuss several topics in parallel. >>>> If some of us do then we need to think of software that supports it. As >>>> I said Slack does. Maybe other (or other self hosted) software can do that, >>>> idk. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ~~~ Curtis >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Garanti >> sans virus. www.avast.com >> >> <#m_-2489832248397018812_m_5150670592946191930_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --0000000000002cff48056b6bb801 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Woost might be great, except it's being updated and a= pparently isn't Woost. I also haven't ever used it so would want to= take a look first since I'm currently President.

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.karis.=C2=A0

On Wed, May 2, 2018, 15:08 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> w= rote:


2018-05-02 21:30 GMT+03:0= 0 Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com>:<= br>
=20 =20 =20
How about using channel categories as threads?

Person A utters something and this message must have an a= bility to start a new thread.

Here is how it's= done in Slack:
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Any message can become a seed to a whole thread.
Channel cat= egories are forethought things. You can not know beforehand which topics wi= ll be raised or (sic!) what a certain topic will shift into.

Ideally, we'd want a tree-like structure=C2=A0
<= div>1. like commenting system at jbovlaste.lojban.org or=C2=A0
<= div>2. like when one creates new threads by changing topics of email messag= es and other people replying to particular messages. Not chaning the topic = of en email message equals to continuing the thread, changing the topic mea= ns opening a new thread.



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(we may even consider a hypergraph system like https://github.com/= woost/wust but it could be an overkill)

=C2=A0
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I don't know what Discord permission is needed to be able to create new #-categories but I suppose it is possible to give all the members this power somehow.


Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
Among self-hosted ones
Mattermost supports threads (Mattermost can be installed e.g. via https://github.com/mozilla/mattermos= t-heroku/).
Rocket.Chats do not support threads:=C2=A0https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1112

Self-hosting software seems to me like an overkill.

Also note that Slack retains not more than 10,000 messages in its free of charge plan.


2018-04-30 8:33 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com>:
I prefer threads.

~~~ Curtis W. Franks

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 01:25 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2018-04-30 4:43 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com>:
According to this (=C2=A0= https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestion= s/15859336-threaded-text-chat ), which is not even a month old, it seems to be impossible. I see multiple other requests for the same feature going back several years, so it seems that either it is impossible or a decent fraction of the prospective Discord community does not know how to do it (of course, my search is going to bias my results).

I should add that I did not read the entire page all the way - just a few comments in order to make sure that no-one immediately told the original poster that threading is indeed possible. If someone did so later on, though, then I definitely missed it.


We then need to decide if we need threads that is whether we shall discuss several topics in parallel.
If some of us do then we need to think of software that supports it. As I said Slack does. Maybe other (or other self hosted) software can do that, idk.

=C2=A0


~~~ Curtis



3D"" Garanti sans v= irus. www.ava= st.com
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