Received: from mail-ed1-f45.google.com ([209.85.208.45]:34984) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iwn2U-0006Oe-2V; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 05:05:54 -0800 Received: by mail-ed1-f45.google.com with SMTP id f8so18569058edv.2; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 05:05:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Vp4TgG88y589PRtnoFv4/yrZ7WdD+KwbFNUJ+8XyXUc=; b=Pl89jaqEUNzGaIa63MoSdzvnvWFPVK5qZlf/7HxfaTgs/se3nPT+26rpOM1hiBXNRU cDrarqjZmUYk14QYSWNrYW1NSL0qmq88nHmHFyxMwbMn/AV+kzF8hmXqjNNG4eehvyR3 SHljbxrc/g4HS5sAIxgLwnI+1gpqG7kMfXDuMhIbFZuXIoVEDRm1RklW8yTeGzS3romu vhRmMwAUKt1OxFi3IovgQ9XRF0KqpiWYy4AM/Ifl/Snvt/7zxg2pLXxMIRXRcXFqjErT +3lsp0R1pWR9mbYx5s/apbd1JPZK1gXDn94ETmcQq4FonJi2yvZ4/6LhFwRxOadUCtij CKfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Vp4TgG88y589PRtnoFv4/yrZ7WdD+KwbFNUJ+8XyXUc=; b=Wwpdc0AjsACnvBanZrZt5qqQXDyjz4FWSxx2rjLGtFKMIAp7gFgotxZDjKTV1CXidS 9eqaMSgZB5QhZ2KuvC5YMXQBQakjmLqkmg7Y7pastrfyxpVdYv4lo12nl3CL8VlLVnJY wB1hhgpOjHKyHPQh792u1MzbadMcw2aOSpRFlwUmtuU5ZFCAximQmRIgcwftZklJGcjf rC8a92/0cdwL4eWAVs5dwuQuJlSYYBGadGL2ZXrIAK1SF7oTbH8JlHkIre1R9iKqzKZ1 kFZ4c5yX0gWoTxgy9kzqfFHh6E5OK93cCpFmEkW9NMnS1g3exSwjPcBSNFqlJWvgabYN rw3g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV+jPuJO3GyehlNA4hN71jebjbrChfoe+EXjLD9GzmouTLYwM5+ z+b6WZym7HojOZUkWTNiCHgFIvOM4+yk+Pf+F04xHUeeaw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwF4KNqVwu50xW2B1PjlL9y+P1A36nUOrgLPGkMfkSFMV+7lXak0nIL2QV2zsqND2n8K18eLPrkVrPU3iRZe1s= X-Received: by 2002:a50:a2c7:: with SMTP id 65mr7476346edm.144.1580303141806; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 05:05:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 16:05:30 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Storing secrets for Lojban resources. To: Riley Martinez-Lynch Cc: secretary@lojban.org, president@lojban.org, Robert LeChevalier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000067aaa2059d46ffe5" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_bar: -- --00000000000067aaa2059d46ffe5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 13:33 Riley Martinez-Lynch wrote: > Ha! I can confirm Robin's assumptions about secrets keeping. I want to be > clear, though: I remain grateful to Robin for all of the organizational > work that he has done and continues to do. I just think that given > increasing online security threats, we need to adopt some new > secret-keeping and sharing practices. > > I can't agree with friend Gleki about the use of email for secrets, and > would kindly request that we not use email to share or store secrets. > > I applaud Robin for proposing a solution: I use 1password personally, but > have also used LastPass, and I think we should consider using one of thes= e > services or something similar to create a vault for LLG secrets. There wi= ll > be a small monthly charge. > Ok since I don't want to rely on cloud services (LastPass was hacked once iirc) I would instead rely on conversations with you. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 29, 2020, at 4:26 AM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > I suggest use precisely this email thread for storing secrets. Email migh= t > not be the safest option but it's the most stable message exchange system= . > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 10:07 Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > >> Hi! I need a place to stick usernames and passwords for Lojbanic >> stuff. >> >> In the past, I've just used a shared Google doc, but I get the >> impression that Riley isn't OK with that, and that's fine. >> >> I personally use LastPass, but I'll use whatever; I just need us to >> agree on *something*, please. >> >> Please add anyone else that you think has or should have an >> interested in the sysadmin side of lojbanistan. >> > --00000000000067aaa2059d46ffe5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 13:33 Riley Martinez-Lynch <<= a href=3D"mailto:shunpiker@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">shunpiker@gmail.com> wrote:
Ha! I can confirm Robin's assumpti= ons about secrets keeping. I want to be clear, though: I remain grateful to= Robin for all of the organizational work that he has done and continues to= do. I just think that given increasing online security threats, we need to= adopt some new secret-keeping and sharing practices.

<= div>I can't agree with friend Gleki about the use of email for secrets,= and would kindly request that we not use email to share or store secrets.<= /div>

I applaud Robin for proposing a solution: I use 1p= assword personally, but have also used LastPass, and I think we should cons= ider using one of these services or something similar to create a vault for= LLG secrets. There will be a small monthly charge.

Ok since I don&#= 39;t want to rely on cloud services (LastPass was hacked once iirc) I would= instead rely on conversations with you.

<= div dir=3D"auto">
=

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2020, at 4:26 AM, Gleki Arxokun= a <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrot= e:

=EF= =BB=BF
I suggest use precisely this email thread for stori= ng secrets. Email might not be the safest option but it's the most stab= le message exchange system.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 10:07 Robin Lee Powell <= ;rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:<= br>
Hi!=C2=A0 I need a place to stick u= sernames and passwords for Lojbanic
stuff.

In the past, I've just used a shared Google doc, but I get the
impression that Riley isn't OK with that, and that's fine.

I personally use LastPass, but I'll use whatever; I just need us to
agree on *something*, please.

Please add anyone else that you think has or should have an
interested in the sysadmin side of lojbanistan.
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