Return-path: Envelope-to: president@lojban.org Delivery-date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:15:47 -0700 Received: from mail-pf1-f170.google.com ([209.85.210.170]:37673) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mQC25-0009Qd-AU; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:15:46 -0700 Received: by mail-pf1-f170.google.com with SMTP id j6so12635649pfa.4; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition; bh=0iX+MasXKHcHOuwvsL3551LefpvJuuy2V7aDz0Z5+FY=; b=StrQvs9Ixlzw5eSC7uzXXc8gAOC7ztu2Tk/V7xJ+WJKe9Og5dQDunNHQocEFPwI2OK VQjCZpG32mykrdjhsB45NcpCoAzbUpSjvdczig0H2Qnfio8sNDF4CaL05W6UqAQ3FJdJ /Mpfc+jFLXnhr+S89jmCL+zh0wwcBUeHCkZ7MmxeBw1Ib/x+6lfe6tRTCqCmmOTklP5p wpUG9zbRsa2RAKtYV2M8DMOTmQwSSzIGmV1KgNN4zcdIpOZ69KMijYv8q66btWMfFAC8 kiKBjGEOpsz7STCnOe8GpryYGYyJ6ENk3wukKAoJJXhYlZZ5R4Rpa8eIuNVi65ozxa7g zJIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition; bh=0iX+MasXKHcHOuwvsL3551LefpvJuuy2V7aDz0Z5+FY=; b=isNUjZf0Jvez4YxDNF4K6IG6P8HyNd8quwLRGqF3ztjnCAO8GpkFBTP1e6gRg0CAPe Qe1AgcrV+KG6OlM7cKAJCTMUvcJFhgTGDrkQuRaUpY3sPIkcDCRHUk7o96rONngIZ6Rj 4FACyyA8G6jy1vH8n4bVDc9foJmqf7lR2x0YFcDXDct+9Cb+2HiOS0OKx+qelR5/uzgg RIKkYkwCMljI4pYZGPIvHuDJBRwv4INzU9T20TenrvuKeIrI7rr5heKTDJUYOsDe8cTf 4j8wBwpZWRKNjPtWPyTVsV4JNtCqKID937VAnPrbnJPq4W9tr3lCVKTMCpQxW84RTQ+t AFdA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530bXI8zULkgR1mtSlDFkf1qXs3aJINAdYsgOgpQARMrBVJDIkuG 4sdi9YWhifoXSvmgraEJY9144AwQh0f6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwrLb9BJGATjqmG8sRJDiyNzlMEUQGvnNjx0Iv7cHTxQmxuxlkKrun2cgiYK2sS2uC0XtRrYQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:7807:: with SMTP id t7mr16296522pgc.474.1631639744143; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x16sm12166258pgc.49.2021.09.14.10.15.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:15:41 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: llg-board@lojban.org, president@lojban.org, vp@lojban.org, secretary@lojban.org, treasurer@lojban.org, arcady.balandin@gmail.com, rlechevalier@cox.net, noras@cox.net Subject: Hey LLG board: some notes about email. Message-ID: <20210914171541.GI2313647@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_bar: -- Some issues I've noticed with email: 1. president@lojban.org, vp@lojban.org, secretary@lojban.org, treasurer@lojban.org are all aliases I maintain for y'all. They have not been updated, AFAICT, since 2017; they currently look like this: president: comcaresvcs@gmail.com vice-president: vp@lojban.org vp: lojbab@lojban.org secretary: shunpiker@gmail.com, robinleepowell@gmail.com treasurer: shunpiker@gmail.com, robinleepowell@gmail.com Looking at https://mw.lojban.org/papri/LLG_Board_of_Directors it looks like that's mostly correct?, although I don't think Arkadii is on that list anywhere? Yeah, I just found his address and it's definitely not on that list. It would be nice if people contacted me to get these updated when an election occurs; that doesn't seem to be happening. 2. I started another thread on all the mailing lists about this, but unless someone knows something I don't I think it's time to kill llg-board@lojban.org and the other locally-hosted email lists, since they're not in use. In which case I would make llg-board@lojban.org a simple alias (i.e. mail there gets sent to all the current board members). This would also require people to contact me to get it updated. 3. Side comment: I can make aliases for [anything]@lojban.org; there is a gleki@lojban.org going to the obvious person, for example. 4. I currently can't send mail to Bob and Nora *again*, their ISP keeps cutting me off. This means lojbab@lojban.org is a black hole currenly, in particular (as is noras@lojban.org). I'm working on it.