Return-path: Envelope-to: president@lojban.org Delivery-date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:43:26 -0700 Received: from mail-pj1-f50.google.com ([209.85.216.50]:44977) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mQCSq-000Fda-Cc; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:43:26 -0700 Received: by mail-pj1-f50.google.com with SMTP id nn5-20020a17090b38c500b0019af1c4b31fso142807pjb.3; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0HJbpH9PHJKhTShjsNENhAX5GbhcwQjcA4Xks5D713w=; b=JxxEIjVBOuFHEcWVcDGY1kOCNf/a67PSjKiTPo3W/AY6+pgGhTpjk8DV6oS5+1k/+6 L0Fx0G6X8Wr3JsCrbJxqKMpzv+rBRAXi71f0SRRuaoBpdMeUghzghrOr2xjPsjzdTTbE UCpqglxSM4ijki/nuRsqWFgDKn6SFVXiCwIbtTFbEOq1qSnb2GkFlKf2yw8k6KGW/Wk3 k2pK3YTmpZp3EoVMW4s9KZp3A97WSh+InjOl4BDT7EoUqjoPftWzyrnGF2/ivWlkV8OD 74aV6fExs6eGQQZVKF/Ovb/95RzfnoFQVU6mcfd92l9U4B52nPbs34u03irfXv47l0zX GfzQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0HJbpH9PHJKhTShjsNENhAX5GbhcwQjcA4Xks5D713w=; b=ck9Mdp3N+M+X4UETrnsegI3D+m/2GPB8tyRQOiVlQXVmoZt8l0nAvv/7XTqFgEItsF wZSQsKR21oK4RP1ZeyVzPNeR6MhlrAgYJaMbi770cnJi+h6LB50fHWMoUqJdttojGQqu xYt2OwisKqhZcSiGwuu4Eglj7oUE+bwV/xkDY3C+hoqRgOqzjTZniYVMjCRAMBt8xvSN f6hhgzliO9BSFVe2SGGmAG2YUHJ2eScpQBJBn6zioUDCG1UONYnBvnb8zKLhLM29ElZ9 hESXFyZv4z6z03wkIu9YGBlLbeCs04Gu2xwr+Ju2tIaYJc7GChq/ZrQfocJxUVyifnEX JZ1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530a4AdtpLfy/gOyLetOGRxEpwiqiAVZdQQEiuqH4w2aL9dpZGM7 NcMU3ai4CfqsKJhFYDXOaRyIC1RH2/IAtIuAFus= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyaKu60bSUdxYh+IWT1Q0PWB8nO8KKsuwsqm+LMQLLMK/iigfgixo2lVwuc0qp3RSuhS/fcqsvVwp+we9a6ryY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8c89:: with SMTP id b9mr3405416pjo.239.1631641403666; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:43:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210914171541.GI2313647@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210914171541.GI2313647@gmail.com> From: Arcady Balandin Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 20:43:12 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hey LLG board: some notes about email. To: Robin Lee Powell Cc: llg-board@lojban.org, president@lojban.org, vp@lojban.org, secretary@lojban.org, treasurer@lojban.org, rlechevalier@cox.net, noras@cox.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000044364305cbf81ee7" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_bar: -- --00000000000044364305cbf81ee7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I don't even remember I owned gleki@lojban.org ... On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 20:15 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Some issues I've noticed with email: > > 1. president@lojban.org, vp@lojban.org, secretary@lojban.org, > treasurer@lojban.org are all aliases I maintain for y'all. They > have not been updated, AFAICT, since 2017; they currently look > like this: > > president: comcaresvcs@gmail.com > vice-president: vp@lojban.org > vp: lojbab@lojban.org > secretary: shunpiker@gmail.com, robinleepowell@gmail.com > treasurer: shunpiker@gmail.com, robinleepowell@gmail.com > > Looking at https://mw.lojban.org/papri/LLG_Board_of_Directors it > looks like that's mostly correct?, although I don't think > Arkadii is on that list anywhere? Yeah, I just found his > address and it's definitely not on that list. > > It would be nice if people contacted me to get these updated > when an election occurs; that doesn't seem to be happening. > > 2. I started another thread on all the mailing lists about this, > but unless someone knows something I don't I think it's time to > kill llg-board@lojban.org and the other locally-hosted email > lists, since they're not in use. In which case I would make > llg-board@lojban.org a simple alias (i.e. mail there gets sent > to all the current board members). This would also require > people to contact me to get it updated. > > 3. Side comment: I can make aliases for [anything]@lojban.org; > there is a gleki@lojban.org going to the obvious person, for > example. > > 4. I currently can't send mail to Bob and Nora *again*, their ISP > keeps cutting me off. This means lojbab@lojban.org is a black > hole currenly, in particular (as is noras@lojban.org). I'm > working on it. > --00000000000044364305cbf81ee7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't even remember I owned gleki@lojban.org ...

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 20:15 Robin Lee = Powell <robinleepowell@gmail= .com> wrote:
Some issues I&#= 39;ve noticed with email:

1.=C2=A0 president@lojban.org, vp@lojban.org, secretary@lojban.org,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 treasurer@lojban.org are all aliases I maintain for y&#= 39;all.=C2=A0 They
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 have not been updated, AFAICT, since 2017; they currently loo= k
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 like this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 president: comcaresvcs@gmail.com
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 vice-president: vp@lojban.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 vp: lojbab@lojban.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 secretary: shunpiker@gmail.com, robinleepow= ell@gmail.com
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 treasurer: shunpiker@gmail.com, robinleepow= ell@gmail.com

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Looking at https://mw.loj= ban.org/papri/LLG_Board_of_Directors it
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 looks like that's mostly correct?, although I don't t= hink
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Arkadii is on that list anywhere?=C2=A0 Yeah, I just found hi= s
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 address and it's definitely not on that list.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It would be nice if people contacted me to get these updated<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 when an election occurs; that doesn't seem to be happenin= g.

2.=C2=A0 I started another thread on all the mailing lists about this,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 but unless someone knows something I don't I think it'= ;s time to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 kill llg-board@lojban.org and the other locally-hosted = email
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lists, since they're not in use.=C2=A0 In which case I wo= uld make
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 llg-board@lojban.org a simple alias (i.e. mail there ge= ts sent
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to all the current board members).=C2=A0 This would also requ= ire
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 people to contact me to get it updated.

3.=C2=A0 Side comment: I can make aliases for [anything]@lojban.org;=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 there is a gleki@lojban.org going to the obvious person, fo= r
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 example.

4.=C2=A0 I currently can't send mail to Bob and Nora *again*, their ISP=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 keeps cutting me off.=C2=A0 This means lojbab@lojban.org i= s a black
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 hole currenly, in particular (as is noras@lojban.org).=C2= =A0 I'm
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 working on it.
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