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CosmicRay wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2011, at 20:32, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 12:14:35PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>>
>>>I hereby call to order the 2011 annual meeting of the Logical
>>>Language Group, Inc.
>>
>>As a general comment, I wish to point out that I've made a habit of
>>*discouraging* people from joining the LLG.
> 
> 
> The person I had in mind to nominate has rescinded his interest following a dissuading e-mail and IRC discussion.  I fully understand that the LLG membership should be small and focused, but I feel that this informal policy may be perceived as being at odds with the LLG Bylaws Article 2 Section 1 (Purpose) if an individual exceptionally exhibits some of the skills outlaid in the LLG's Purpose.

I opine that we should not be dissuading people from joining IFF they 
have shown some kind of continuing active interest in the 
organization/business aspects of the project.

This would be indicated by
a) actively working on some project over an extended period of time, 
especially a language project that involves coordinating with other 
Lojbanists, such as Pierre's effort, and byfy work for Robin.  (This 
indicates both longevity of interest and organizational interest).
The following also show organizational interest:
a1) Assumption of responsibility for any of the multitudinous 
non-language chores that come up (Robin seems to have several of these 
related to  website maintenance).
a2) especial activity in recruiting or promoting Lojban to the outside 
world.  Usually this will involve representation at a science fiction 
convention, or teaching a Lojban class.

b) having read the bylaws, preferably before the meeting, and themselves 
asking to join (as opposed to being proposed by another - others can 
urge them, but they should have the initiative to speak up for themselves.
b1) someone who sits through a meeting, perhaps opining on discussion 
topics even though they don't have a vote, and who then asks to be a 
member afterwards has shown similar interest.

What we don't want are people who sign up, possibly attend one meeting, 
and never show any interest in organizational matters again.  Probably 
around 1/4 to 1/3 of the people who have been members fit this category, 
though it has gotten better since we went to online meetings (travelling 
  to Virginia for an annual meeting was certainly a difficulty that 
caused many to sign up and then disappear).  Another 1/3 have served for 
2-3 years and then stopped being involved.

Quorum is somewhat of an issue, but not a severe one if we keep our 
numbers in the 2 dozen or so range.  We approached 3 dozen a few years 
ago, and had more trouble with quorum, but I am not sure how much the 
number was significant as opposed to our having a *very* inclusive 
concept of membership in those days.

lojbab
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Bob LeChevalier    lojbab@lojban.org    www.lojban.org
President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

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