Received: from localhost ([::1]:55646 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WI82T-0007Bv-BE; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:46:33 -0800 Received: from iad2.alfar.com ([208.72.84.37]:50556) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WI82K-0007Bm-QF for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:46:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iad2.alfar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793C8105C131 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alfar.com Received: from iad2.alfar.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iad2.alfar.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HpyZYMaC5B6I for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tommys-mbp.home (pool-96-231-199-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.231.199.9]) by iad2.alfar.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55B90105C128 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) From: TommyLee Whitlock Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:46:16 -0500 References: <52E80298.4090002@lojban.org> <530A53D7.1070201@lojban.org> <530A565D.6090106@lojban.org> <530A6E90.5030801@lojban.org> To: llg-members@lojban.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Llg-members] *** LLG 2013 Annual Meeting: New Business: Ali's discussion about creating a cohesive international community X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9111270752763843740==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============9111270752763843740== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3E2C04A7-DB9E-4604-9766-3D846EDB5B0A" --Apple-Mail=_3E2C04A7-DB9E-4604-9766-3D846EDB5B0A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This is an interesting topic. What about exploiting some of the other = social media opportunities that are now available. I=E2=80=99m = specifically thinking of Facebook and note that Lojbab is now has a = Facebook account. I admit that I=E2=80=99m moving into fossil-dom but = isn=E2=80=99t Facebook reasonably international in scope now? Or does = someone know of a newer social media that may be better? Yahoo Groups = would have served this purpose at one time and for some topics is still = viable. Google groups maybe.=20 There are several privacy possibilities with Facebook groups, from wide = open to closed private by email invitation only. For wide open, there = would need to be someone (or several someones) to monitor it to ban = spammers or malfeasants. =20 Thoughts? =20 TommyLee On Feb 23, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Ali Sajid Imami = wrote: > =E2=80=8BI do not have much information at the moment, but while LLG = and our IRC channels are restricted to Noth America, there is a = significant community of lojban speakers/enthusiasts in both Japan and = Russia. =E2=80=8BI have not had the time to contact the Japanese , but I = have been in contact with Gleki Arxokuna, who is our sole link to the = Russian community. According to Gleki, he has about twenty people who = are interested in lojban and are actively learning. What stops them is = the lack of stuff available in Russian, which Gleki is rectifying and = their lack of interaction with the North American body of lojbanists. >=20 > I feel that we will be better off if we can involve both the Japanese = and Russian lojbanist communities. >=20 > Other, smaller but significant communities that might exist, based on = my logs of #ckule include both German and French-speaking people. > I would propose that we reach out, officially and create active = "chapters" with them. People like Gleki are enthusiastic and if given = work to do, will do it gladly and rather quickly. This can also help = with promoting the language. Of course, this ties in with the discussion = about promoting the language and the publication of the dictionary as = well, because we certainly need dictionaries in more than one language. >=20 > There is also a small South Asian community in Pakistan and India that = is interested in lojban but the training materials being unsuitable to = their learning style and being a bit out of date is a barrier as well. I = am trying to fix that, but have not had enough time to do something = substantial. > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members --Apple-Mail=_3E2C04A7-DB9E-4604-9766-3D846EDB5B0A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 This = is an interesting topic. What about exploiting some of the other social = media opportunities that are now available. I=E2=80=99m specifically = thinking of Facebook and note that Lojbab is now has a Facebook account. =  I admit that I=E2=80=99m moving into fossil-dom but isn=E2=80=99t = Facebook reasonably international in scope now?  Or does someone = know of a newer social media that may be better?  Yahoo Groups = would have served this purpose at one time and for some topics is still = viable.  Google groups maybe. 
There are several privacy = possibilities with Facebook groups, from wide open to closed private by = email invitation only.  For wide open, there would need to be = someone (or several someones) to monitor it to ban spammers or = malfeasants.  
Thoughts?  
ali.sajid.imami@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
=E2=80=8BI do not have = much information at the moment, but while LLG and our IRC channels are = restricted to Noth America, there is a significant community of lojban = speakers/enthusiasts in both Japan and Russia. =E2=80=8BI have not had = the time to contact the Japanese , but I have been in contact with Gleki = Arxokuna, who is our sole link to the Russian community. According to = Gleki, he has about twenty people who are interested in lojban and are = actively learning. What stops them is the lack of stuff available in = Russian, which Gleki is rectifying and their lack of interaction with = the North American body of lojbanists.

I feel that we will be better off if we can involve both the = Japanese and Russian lojbanist communities.

Other, smaller but = significant communities that might exist, based on my logs of #ckule = include both German and French-speaking people.
I would propose that we reach out, officially and create active = "chapters" with them. People like Gleki are enthusiastic and if given = work to do, will do it gladly and rather quickly. This can also help = with promoting the language. Of course, this ties in with the discussion = about promoting the language and the publication of the dictionary as = well, because we certainly need dictionaries in more than one = language.

There is also a small South Asian community in Pakistan and India = that is interested in lojban but the training materials being unsuitable = to their learning style and being a bit out of date is a barrier as = well. I am trying to fix that, but have not had enough time to do = something substantial.
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