Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUi5h-0007Xz-Lr for lojban-newreal@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:14:09 -0700 Received: from cbcbb-com.yenpropel.com ([66.172.91.95]:42118) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUi5f-0007X9-5z for lojban@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:14:08 -0700 From: Get Abs Again Subject: no cutting calories ( Oz Episode ) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:16:53 -0700 To: Message-ID: <643e9fdd3232cb8cc00e8c30b913834f@cbcbb-com.yenpropel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- Being Fat is not Your Fate Train your body to burn calories round the clock, So you can lose weight while you chew. ~ Episode Spoiler ~ DocOz has perfected his Strategy so you can do it in 1-Step. (No gym or starving involved) View 1 Step Plan Here -> http://www.yenpropel.com/34t/ew4f/oz/ep/id604.shtml [Episode Clip No 657] DocOz Show Guide To View Archives, go here -> http://www.yenpropel.com/34t/ew4f/oz/ep/id604.shtml TO alter your message settings - write TGI Services 1324 Swan Dr Bartlesville, OK 74006 or visit http://www.yenpropel.com/67i/aw4et.o87ur Those were different days. I've read the book. Jack Lambie used to be a member of my soaring club. As an example of how those days were different, take the example of Jack from the book: Flying his RF-4 on the deck through Edwards AFB airspace twice a week, because going straight through was a short-cut from Elsinore to where the Gossamer Condor was being assembled. Think he'd get away with that today? Without some kind of organization, all you'll ever have is a local flying meet. One venue. And "with no organizers or leaders", the liability for any accident is going to fall down to the land-owner. You think they're going to go along with that? In the 70's at such events, guys would just go over the side of the hill to relieve themselves. With today's public-event health regulations, someone is going to need to rent Porta-Potties, etc., to a formula that factors in the number of attendees. For this to have any "promote aviation" effect, you're going to need an organization, multiple venues, and deep PR with the newsmedia. And all of that means insurance. There's no getting away from it in this day and age. If you just want to do one local event in the vein of the old Lilenthal "meet", then go for it. Anything larger than that - or any future editions - is going to require at least liability insurance with a named-insured rider for the land owner.I agree. I have raced for a living for the better part of the last 20 years. I feel sorry for the "low/no budget guys", but like Ross said "This is racing, not a family picnic". You can compete in any class , but being the fastest is going to cost you. I dont care what "rules" someone puts on a class, its the parts that are not regulated by rules that are exploited by the teams. In claimer style racing, sure the engines are , but then you see extravagant budgets on the chassis itself. Let me give you a example. Some of our classes try to create parity by limiting the inlet size on a turbo. So the low budget guys restrict their 2500.00 turbo and race. The big budget guys spend 50,000 having various custom units built and trying them all. The only thing that has kept the super high budget teams out is the prohibition of corporate logos on the outside of the vehicles. But, even recently, a big name has stepped in a reset one of the records by a fair amount. It would be difficult in air racing to find a "low cost" parity, without allowing budgets and technology dictating a even playing field (like now). In my opinion, the only way you could achieve it would be 4 rules. You run "x" airframe only, "x" sealed engine only,