Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 12:45:46 -0700
To: <lojban@lojban.org>
Subject: property experts forecast prices
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That is new information to me. In that case, this seems even more a hybrid type of event where initially separate tornadoes from separate mesocyclones end up so close to each other it becomes difficult to distinguish them as separate tornadoes when one is dying. I was giving my impression based solely off of the portion of your video where you made the measurement of the speed of the tornado. At that point in the video, the satellite indeed appeared to emanate from the same mesocyclone as the current dominant tornado. Whether it started out that way does impact the classification. However, this new information also means that the Pilger tornado appears to have eventually been absorbed into the circulation of the next tornado, which makes a time of death of the Pilger tornado more difficult to classify (sounds like a kind of Hesston tornado situation in which the hand-off occurred so quickly and with the two tornadoes in such proximity so that the damage path masked the end of one and beginning of the other). 

I would still argue that given the degree of instability and the scale of rotation going on, the two tornadoes were not truly independent at the moment you estimate the speed of the apparent satellite tornado. Moreover I think the excessive speed of that tornado was helped by the fact that it appeared to be at the most advantageous quadrant of the circulation such that the forward speed of the parent mesocyclone added some propagation speed to the tornado. Had you seen this same tornado survive and rotate around to the other side of the main tornado, I bet you would've seen it propagate much slower.