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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 2015-01-19 4:59 GMT+03:00 Robin Lee Powell : > Independently of my other reply where I got into finicky details: > > 1. We should absolutely get rid of Tiki; it's huge and slow and > while it is actively maintained, it's not exactly *expertly* > maintained. Also, everybody knows how to handle mediawiki; it's a > good replacement choice. > > 2. I'm super impressed that people managed to port all the data! > Go them! > [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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We should absolutely get rid of Tiki; it's huge and slow and > while it is actively maintained, it's not exactly *expertly* > maintained. Also, everybody knows how to handle mediawiki; it's a > good replacement choice. > > 2. I'm super impressed that people managed to port all the data! > Go them! > It was a terrible algorithm of converting tiki's dump to mediawiki's xml file ready for importing. Files were moved via a separate script. Don't ask me for these scripts, I deleted them and I will never do it again :). > Just wanted to seperate out my positive commentary from my whining. > :) > > Side comment: for the record, Tiki has both templating and > per-user-language pages; no-one asked me or I'd have showed it to > them. Moving to mediawiki is still a better idea. 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2015-01-19 4:59 GMT+03:00 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digital= kingdom.org>:
Independently= of my other reply where I got into finicky details:

1.=C2=A0 We should absolutely get rid of Tiki; it's huge and slow and while it is actively maintained, it's not exactly *expertly*
maintained.=C2=A0 Also, everybody knows how to handle mediawiki; it's a=
good replacement choice.

2.=C2=A0 I'm super impressed that people managed to port all the data!<= br> Go them!

It was a terrible algorithm of= converting tiki's dump to mediawiki's xml file ready for importing= . Files were moved via a separate script. Don't ask me for these script= s, I deleted them and I will never do it again :).


Just wanted to seperate out my positive commentary from my whining.
:)

Side comment: for the record, Tiki has both templating and
per-user-language pages; no-one asked me or I'd have showed it to
them.=C2=A0 Moving to mediawiki is still a better idea.=C2=A0 The main thin= g
stopping me was trying to transition all the data, which apparently
someone has done.

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 07:28:19PM +0300, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Here I put for voting changing the of= ficial wiki (based on tiki engine
> running from lojban.or= g) to another wiki based on mediawiki engine.
>
> The alternative wiki is now installed in TEST mode at mw.lojban.org
> Note that since it is test mode it might not be as fast as we would li= ke to.

--
http://intelligence.= org/ :=C2=A0 Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u= .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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