Received: from localhost ([::1]:55007 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YmYlc-0003Rc-To; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:27:28 -0700 Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]:35977) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YmYla-0003RV-Go for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:27:27 -0700 Received: by wgen6 with SMTP id n6so101193919wge.3 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:27:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SJ2UR0HoCsNg0nZxzgQ1XGRfH7g9p9bIxSrrPn/m33w=; b=Hi+kADp7WU/7A3CLrQBr+3EC8uiZGmM/9+o6w/hkyuFCO33GIMApYD4d1tDmXn0FpL w4Pnyj/sItEpHqibM3YUzcfU2/rrg6jtr8qbHHsHheB9qTeLw8Wxy+8ahSDWkMTPnRvk +rIht6EQO2PnY9wel4/EtKHbhbwb/Od5uJtHvHsKJj33ACnKJk0RUwZYDFTHiHoGFKnT uhi2fL6gBdTAzCj0cKGUtQGuPEZxHADgpn96rJiNfYeQMs4n/PVLfqVPKRs4srF1099+ DEkEMtf4JvAqg8z49dc854wHmiAb86PGA9eLBzGbgcP/SZ0DTLKvdP0/1ZKzGG7Idwa5 nzqw== X-Received: by 10.180.186.99 with SMTP id fj3mr16779796wic.10.1430101639639; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (97e33c03.skybroadband.com. [151.227.60.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g11sm861770wjr.25.2015.04.26.19.27.18 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <553D9E86.1060804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 03:27:18 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120711 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org References: <5502321A.2050208@lojban.org> <551ADCFF.20709@lojban.org> <552CA608.50200@lojban.org> <552D0CC2.7080502@selpahi.de> <552DA91A.8090207@lojban.org> <5530325A.2010303@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_score_int: -9 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] New Business: other topics X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org Gleki Arxokuna, On 26/04/2015 12:45: > > > 2015-04-26 14:12 GMT+03:00 And Rosta >: > > > On 26 Apr 2015 11:41, "Gleki Arxokuna" > wrote: > > > > > > 2015-04-26 13:34 GMT+03:00 And Rosta >: > >> > >> Although I am willing to debate the question of what language is (and what the question means), I don't think there is any point in having that debate here and now. I continue to have a clear vision of what contribution LLG could best make to human knowledge, as per its mission statement, but we agree that LLG should not in fact attempt to make that contribution, because it is incompatible with the collective will of the Lojban community. > > > > But why are you not contributing? LLG is operated by people whose names we all know. > > I don't understand your question. > > > You said "I continue to have a clear vision of what *contribution* LLG could best make to human knowledge". > > the LLG is not a person that can contribute. > the LLG is a company operated by >1 person. > References to Lojban community are irrelevant since most active contributors are members of the LLG. > So why aren't you starting your contribution now in a way how you see it? I still don't understand the third statement or the question. (The second statement is obviously true. The first statement is literally true too, but do you rather mean to say that the LLG can't contribute? That it can't contribute because it isn't a person? That seems unlikely, but I can't think what else you could be trying to say.) --And. _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members