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([2601:5c0:c000:25f9:c591:e226:94a0:e87c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e184sm27671507qkb.40.2015.12.28.08.35.17 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 Dec 2015 08:35:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> <5671E710.2020407@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karen Stein Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:35:14 -0500 To: llg-members@lojban.org,llg-members@lojban.org Message-ID: <9AC7ACDB-A395-4564-8340-20876DAB07CA@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2015 Annual Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org >2015-12-25 13:43 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna : >> >> this is an LLG thread btw. >> > >Yes, and we discuss how the next version of CLL should be published, >because the subject can be regarded as a kind of management. >I suggested: >2015-12-17 3:26 GMT+00:00 guskant : >> >> I think byfy must be responsible for the contents of CLL, and LLG >must be >> responsible for the publication. >> > Personally I believe that the BPFK should be responsible for the accuracy of the lojban in the CLL, and for the initial version of the complete text. At that point it will not require the ability to speak lojban well to review the text and make sure first that the explanations make sense to those who do not speak lojban well, and second that the linguistic aspects of the text are accurately written. The reason I believe it important that non-lojban speakers and those not nearly fluent can follow the explanations is because these are primarily who will be reading it. I was able to read over and make suggestions on the first edition was not because I knew lojban well, but because I was interested in LLG producing a useful book that made sense when read. It is also important that the volume make sense to linguists since it is the major way they will be able to see how the language works. As such, each CLL should be a joint venture between BPFK and LLG, as the representative organization of interested persons. >> I recognize that CLL2.0 branch >> https://github.com/lojban/cll/commits/docbook-prince-cll-2.0 >> was and will be modified for the next official CLL. In which case it should be treated as such. >2015-12-25 13:43 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna : >> >> >> 2015-12-25 16:02 GMT+03:00 guskant : >>> >>> My preference is that you only make comments to each line without >>> doing that if the parts are not yet discussed by BPFK. >>> Your preference is that you change all as you like and push (and >those >>> are currently mostly pulled), and after that, BPFK will discuss the >>> validity. >>> We can discuss the procedure here. I will obey the majority. >> >> >> Here? By LLG? > >Yes, because the subject originated in the publication of the next >version of CLL, though I don't insist on continuing it if the others >are not interested in. Actually, we have not yet reached even the >conclusion if the contents of CLL must be managed by BPFK; I suggested >it in my first post in this thread. > >> Ok, what do others think? >> Personally I refrain from voting because either decision is fine to >me. My comments on this are above. >> Also as for xorlo "commenting to each line" would be hard since xorlo >can >> mean reworking larger sections of the book. Some necessary >sections/examples >> simply don't exist yet. Others can change their internal structure >totally. > >xorlo has been official since 2004. I don't demand "commenting to each >line" for the official decision. > I also am not asking for line-by-line comments, but I am asking for members, or non-members, who are interested, to read over the material and make comments as they each see the need. karis _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members