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2015-12-31 14:24 GMT+00:00 John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>:
> And Rosta scripsit:
>
>> This is not to say that I think Lojban's "modal" should be replaced by
>> "preposition", tho it should certainly be replaced by something. I'd favour
>> a Lojban term.
>
> In hindsight I agree.
>

I'm not fluent in English, but I have impression that "preposition"
may include all tags BAI, PU, FAhA and so on. I agree that the use of
the word "modal" is a source of misunderstanding, and that some proper
explanation for BAI is necessary for the purpose of linguist-friendly
description on the language, though we don't need any words other than
"BAI" for BAI for the purpose of language design itself.

For your information, here are ways of treatment of "modal" in various
Lojban learning materials in Japanese.

Tijlan invented a Japanese word for translation of Lojban "modal" into
Japanese. The word's form was created based on the usual translation
of "modal" into Japanese, and it is different from any existing
technical words in linguistics or logic.
https://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3/%E7%B5%B1%E8%AA%9E%E8%AB%96/sumtcita

The Japanese version of CLL inherited Tijlan's invented word for Lojban "modal".
http://ponjbogri.github.io/cll-ja/chapter9.html

In my audio course of Lojban in Japanese, I did not use any literal
translation of "modal" . I called tag "tag", BAI "BAI" and so on. This
treatment should not produce any difficulty in learning, because I
first introduced a concept of "role of an argument in a sentence",
that comprehends the meanings of terbri and tagged sumti. Both
sumti-places and tags give "role of an argument" to a sentence; tags
of PU, BAI and so on gives information of the role; PU gives
information about time, BAI gives the other information, and so on.
Here are the parts of complementary text to my audio course that
correspond to sumtcita and selbritcita:
http://guskant.github.io/kolojbo.iu/html/ch06.html
http://guskant.github.io/kolojbo.iu/html/ch09s05.html

Cogas inherited Tijlan's word from the Japanese version of CLL into
his course Hajiloji, but he added a peculiar interpretation to the
word, maybe intended, and he taught it as "rule derived from brivla",
considering that x1 of a brivla corresponds to a sumti following BAI.
http://cogas.github.io/hajiloji/article/nunctu/14.html

mu'o

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