Received: from localhost ([::1]:60510 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aVXzt-0002zD-Rp; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:16:25 -0800 Received: from smtp.hughes.net ([69.168.97.48]:19798) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aVXzl-0002xg-QV for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:16:24 -0800 X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=UtNaaYAB c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=jFJIQSaiL_oA:10 a=1SUwKgTJAAAA:8 a=0RbYfKNEAAAA:8 a=zvZikeaf_3ZSwJFV75UA:9 a=Vtc3F_6-Kp0NtO5L:21 a=1mqiSQ-C2WpyzBpu:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com header.from=phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=phma; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of leaf.dragonflybsd.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:42006] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 9A/E8-05536-A90B2C65; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:16:10 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8EA7130 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:16:08 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: llg-members@lojban.org Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:16:06 -0500 Message-ID: <2548800.VjRsp9KpVf@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-76-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <56C2163C.8020700@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] My health X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org On Monday, February 15, 2016 21:53:16 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > I'm sorry to hear those news about your health. I hope you'll be fine soo= n. > a'o do zenba lo ni kanro > Currently the most important issue as i see it is to protect Lojban from > drowning into obscurity. > Robin still provides hosting and it's free of charge. > = > For other alternatives I recommend such payment schemes as > http://elasticweb.org/en > because we don't know beforehand how much resources we'll need. > For static websites like dictionary search engines and parsers static > websites like provided by Github are one of the best solutions as of now > since Github has compared to Robin's servers almost no downtimes. I set up a backup mailserver on DigitalOcean a few months ago. It costs me = $10 = a month and it's just like my frontup mailserver (a box I bought years ago = and = put Linux on), except it doesn't have anywhere near as much disk space (it'= s = 30 gig) and it doesn't have any X programs installed. I ssh into either one = and run commands. Instead of selecting various classes of websites as on = ElasticWeb, you choose which OS you want. As I've been running Linux and BS= D = for years and setting up various services, that made more sense to me. > For increasing the presence of Lojban I used gateways between > IRC/Telegram/Slack which are some of popular replacements for IRC chat > these days. Again we rely here exclusively on Robin. We can of course move > them out of his servers and that would be not more than 7 USD per month > which I'm sure we can handle (in this case there will be no downtimes at > all). Why do we need a replacement for IRC or a gateway between IRC and something = else? > Also we have some textbooks done via a grammarian approach (drilling rules > of grammar) for which we'll need to work on anti-grammarian approach (lea= rn > via passive immersion into speaking Lojban) for which only real-time talks > in Lojban Text Chat (can no longer say IRC) are now available. But I made > an initial sketch of first "flashcard sentences" on memrise.com although > the latter is terrible in teaching languages (although almost noone tried > teaching there through sentences). Basically I could as well make a file > with those sentences to be printed on paper to be put on the wall to be > read. What about books for jboverba? I know there are "le virnu smani blozerle'a" = and the like, but is there a book explaining grammar in Lojban? Pierre -- = When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members