Received: from localhost ([::1]:39996 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aVwHA-0003gB-1Q; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:11:52 -0800 Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com ([74.125.82.45]:36117) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aVwH3-0003f3-21 for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:11:49 -0800 Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id g62so144070453wme.1 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:11:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jYDLAml+9/g+gBbD1gUsG1/BdK2IoBP9M3NiTJ1kRzk=; b=rbMdyvp5ggTBzqRl2zWWB1Rj+q4O85cpV67LgX27tL+XfTihIP+jOxQlLkFxjuE2pY oiAtDjKIeOUK9vAhwgSFF4FSfmTwsOBJwgNIqdhV1Ha6uPBlur/n0Ot/rI+2RsvHWIRE urfrL0ZdFpRY88+XwpTLttBSIW8/HRYt4jVCD9XuDvFF9P9DQ7cZZPutoHgqUfuRmsIA iGJVK77//WqVM22dAfgYBznf+//H7PdSZwZfTjq+/WBJQaPOfSBrQnjFNmiCuxiU3AR+ ZeTmWJ+RI6BU0R5UKgo6wot5EXIDlYW+BfGRfsVoVRsQWqtxn1Tv2h24nkxTwkEpfUKT CFgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=jYDLAml+9/g+gBbD1gUsG1/BdK2IoBP9M3NiTJ1kRzk=; b=gtuLuRBdqHEKeDGDltS9Y/2tu4O9sxIJRXGhTKOaFTRMlv4E1C9wLKdHYx0F8uvDHT s9ywBuYCuKf9+XM2464avYM1uEVLdEOiuXg6+FUYceFu1uQzyyOUcSpPVdx6DDGfgYmk 97SUNS6pj6DsyvS25M25tG+T16rV/ZTSUAUn742f6To8yOZjWwsQI7q64JfnLr4BQIoW CqSONy4Q5XmFlUo2N7mrNfZeYE1JiYoG+XCgO5QU7YljMEXaAVOjmwrQCfDpxDyEqlm7 dFpcPkG8aHOtyg4rh6wcpiXY11QH3MdUN52FaAuE02Dts2hiizV8ugqzMzfpL6QWvK8i ning== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQiFeuMC+92FUndARbpraPLbxsNlyjqkvx6Bbi20sRfcGsdKjn+ZY13c4cNiqlG337fDqgTaXvkrcfg3Q== X-Received: by 10.28.109.150 with SMTP id b22mr1814020wmi.27.1455693098136; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:11:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.91.210 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:10:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56C37E88.4030000@lojban.org> References: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> <4E514785-A922-4D75-B34A-EFB3880C5712@gmail.com> <566701E3.4060408@lojban.org> <566CD949.7010504@lojban.org> <5671E710.2020407@lojban.org> <56C37E88.4030000@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:10:58 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] International lojban community issues (was Re: 2015 Annual Meeting) X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2482409104533068005==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============2482409104533068005== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1147cddc043c23052bf1f6cf --001a1147cddc043c23052bf1f6cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-02-16 22:54 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG < lojbab@lojban.org>: > Briefly, however, Eaton's list was only one of many sources for Loglan and > Lojban, and, in any event, the claim of cultural neutrality is not an > absolute claim that would be negated by a statement > > 3. Gleki advertised some derivations of Lojban as "Lojban", while he >> did some other derivations that are unpleasant to him as "non-Lojban". >> > > This probably should be a topic for the meeting, either old business or > new business (old because it has been discussed before, new because there > is no official policy right now). > This "Gleki advertised some derivations of Lojban as "Lojban" " was simply mocking at others' dialects whereas I myself didn't invent any dialects seriously. If someone believed me that when I proposed that {li} can be used instead of {cu} or that Lojban should change to Chinese characters instead of Latin alphabet or that a manuscript written in 15th century was actually written in Lojban ... --001a1147cddc043c23052bf1f6cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2016-02-16 22:54 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <l= ojbab@lojban.org>:
Briefly, however, Eaton's list was only= one of many sources for Loglan and Lojban, and, in any event, the claim of= cultural neutrality is not an absolute claim that would be negated by a st= atement

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 3. Gleki advertised some derivations of Lojban as "Lojba= n", while he
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 did some other derivations that are unpleasant to him as &quo= t;non-Lojban".

This probably should be a topic for the meeting, either old business or new= business (old because it has been discussed before, new because there is n= o official policy right now).


This "Gleki advertised some derivations of Lojban = as "Lojban" " was simply mocking at others' dialects whe= reas I myself didn't invent any dialects seriously. If someone believed= me that when I proposed that {li} can be used instead of {cu} or that Lojb= an should change to Chinese characters instead of Latin alphabet or that = =C2=A0a manuscript written in 15th century was actually written in Lojban .= ..
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