Received: from localhost ([::1]:45990 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aWGPJ-00010E-6C; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:41:37 -0800 Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com ([209.85.213.178]:34611) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aWGPD-0000zE-FG for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:41:35 -0800 Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id g6so5544049igt.1 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:41:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=hgPVxuL16nSWUZiNZJVlD/Gt/5FrskNVivOpFJWcjQA=; b=u0X99uUWjSGT30adHfW9/hoIKV8rigvNVgfyP0koX5Ul/q3ndUDAsvx/mY98gKnOf1 7ftknr1oOoakftF/UPY9iaB0qaWEDqaDHSgbXOwQbfMp4LvvyyiU7nIxoLtj2oFD+B9H QVFTBFYaoGmjtRB82GHFY96Y/8nBikJfXNH7ipr4GNHnm3EKIaxxpxRTU1evRNarh44A exT9hxSsL6ChD041EjQq0bQvVLTwlvOsO5y7hZxJ+IyKQcdSyfRY0huAkzVo87igdxyg btcngAFixIIqWift38ZBfutp01hrFJlRAFO1ZDilS76lPoeLG64qlzFZQqzSbo95nW6U ZoZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hgPVxuL16nSWUZiNZJVlD/Gt/5FrskNVivOpFJWcjQA=; b=YoAnlX0rGcYqoRR0USychpgmB8DmMTgUonAr+MobqtarV7lXKQMk6aRnqxS+YnztZt Y56jGv1RSADMhEuSJCHAFvLoQQaqzPn4rdVZACBxPOgPwHwUx6Vkq9KTMD79EJCYlg/I LvSgFSyU3YQSdSS4woYZCXbGGb8UU3Bttp4mFRe25KjF8w75UySarb/UFqUu6w5sZCDL zg7MsyXVXPKKNVOs1EDvqoc0C3I/ayv7iI1cNwh6bVDPsq+fl0YqwN9tXUb/5JAqxiu0 loNe9yr4HYRxbfh17fVb01U4z2duYF/NM64X5VGBkLkW7/2K93x2ukBHDYc7IZyrFwPR mSVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORURw74PSipGP2yWQ3U8VDDUvIdt+YzGXPjpY0sL/b6WDC5Ehi06TMEq2Gl4cqQ8dUnM2OibfOk29rr+Q== X-Received: by 10.50.155.6 with SMTP id vs6mr1276601igb.83.1455770485546; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:41:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.25.68 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:41:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> <4E514785-A922-4D75-B34A-EFB3880C5712@gmail.com> <566701E3.4060408@lojban.org> <566CD949.7010504@lojban.org> <5671E710.2020407@lojban.org> <56C37E88.4030000@lojban.org> From: guskant Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 04:41:06 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] International lojban community issues (was Re: 2015 Annual Meeting) X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org 2016-02-17 8:40 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna : > > I think it should be discussed too then. But Lojbanists create new cmavo and li'o Those are only two examples of many topics that may be missed by Lojbanists outside those communities. I don't follow all the topics appearing in those communities. I'm not a spokesperson of those communities. I once recommended Sidas, a Japanese-speaking Lojbanist, posting a message about his idea to BPFK-list, and he kindly did it. However, I don't dare to let you know their ideas instead of them, because I could miss any important points in their ideas. If necessary, they should tell you by their own words, not through my interpretation. 2016-02-17 23:52 GMT+00:00 Bob LeChevalier : > On 2/17/2016 3:28 AM, guskant wrote: >> >> (I think it is the key feature of cultural neutrality of Lojban that >> most expressions that are grammatically forced in natural languages >> are optional in Lojban. It is worth mentioning in the next version of >> CLL as a culturally neutral structure of Lojban.) > > > I think in fact that the optional usage is PRIMARILY what JCB meant by > "culturally neutral". > > As for the other things you wrote, I would probably first try to use some > form of metalinguistic form (SEI/SEhU) to mark role-wording, as a first > approach, adding cmavo only if they provided a significant increase in > clarity. Otherwise, I need to think about things a lot more than I am > capable of right now (health reasons). > > > lojbab > I see. I don't intend to hasten you. I hope you will be in better conditions soon! mi'e la guskant _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members