Received: from localhost ([::1]:32823 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ahgcC-0004Fa-QV; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 09:54:08 -0700 Received: from smtp.hughes.net ([69.168.97.48]:17045) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ahgc6-0004Ei-2K for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 09:54:07 -0700 X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=UtNaaYAB c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=7OsogOcEt9IA:10 a=oYyL5X72wzgliYEbAYcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com header.from=phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=phma; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of leaf.dragonflybsd.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:43511] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 51/78-05536-3A5DEE65; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:53:55 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E913255EE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:53:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: llg-members@lojban.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <2439607.PqWLdNUNun@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-79-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <8BCCD0E2-E6D4-4687-9D89-D177E69E1259@gmail.com> <20160319165805.GA8304@mercury.ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2015 Annual Meeting - Old Business X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org On Saturday, March 19, 2016 21:03:33 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > It's important for teaching Lojban. Let's imagine someone wants a > natlang-like phrasebook on Lojban. They will need a word for "permit" as > opposed to "let". Core vocabulary lacks it. They need bigger dictionaries > but without explaining radians and trigonometric functions. > > On the other hand other people might need general descriptions of the > universe with Higgs mechanism explained in pure Lojban. A dictionary for > them will lack words for "Marocco". Lojban, however, has the rule, which doesn't exist in any natlang I know, that one brivla may not have two or more unrelated meanings. So we need some way to prevent people who make up words for subatomic particles and people who make up words for North African cultural practices from using the same word for two different things, or to arbitrate between them if they do. For instance, the word "malpigi" could mean: *one of the major (10-18 in humans) divisions of a kidney, *an excretory tubule of an insect, or *a plant closely related to acerola. The word could cover the first two meanings, or the third, but not both. My druthers are to assign "malpigi" to the plant, with "rutrmalpigi" and "ricrmalpigi" if we want to distinguish the fruit from the tree, and call the excretory structure "ragrmalpigi" with no type-4 shortening. (All of these meanings are named for Marcello Malpighi.) Pierre -- Lanthanidia deliciosa: What the kiwifruit would be if it weren't so radioactive. _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members