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2016-03-25 5:59 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gma= il.com>:

I a= gree/my current understanding is yours. So maybe Lojbab can explain his rea= soning first and then selpa'i can counter.

On Mar 24, 2016 22:56, "John Cowan" &l= t;cowan@mercury= .ccil.org> wrote:
Curtis Franks scripsit:

> I would like to learn in greater detail the reason for the BPFK's = decision
> regarding the purposeful and theoretic rejection of parsers as determi= ning
> the formal grammar of the language.

As I understand it, the formal grammars are the various documents such
as the Yacc grammar, the BNF grammar, and the PEG grammar, rather than
any specific mechanization of any of these as a parsing program.

Yes, they rejected= any applications/programs and particular languages like that of C++ / C / = Jabascript / Python implementing such parsers.

The= y wanted replacing YACC/BNF with PEG due to some difficulties found when ap= plying YACC/BNF to parsing texts in Lojban.

=C2=A0=

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And through this revolting graveyard of the universe the muffled,
maddening beating of drums, and thin, monotonous whine of blasphemous
flutes from inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond Time; the
detestable pounding and piping whereunto dance slowly, awkwardly, and
absurdly the gigantic tenebrous ultimate gods --the blind, voiceless,
mindless gargoyles whose soul is Nyarlathotep. (Lovecraft)

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