Received: from localhost ([::1]:60485 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1akneQ-0000Zk-Dm; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:01:18 -0700 Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com ([209.85.213.174]:34240) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1akneK-0000Yo-Pd for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:01:17 -0700 Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id av4so70425315igc.1 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:01:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=4lhJOT+ni92h/3bzukXVxHSwKuz3QL8BOc03Ek0sOyg=; b=Bfh9iznGOHPs2RS8JwOmzdV+UDIn7sFxtkHc7Lt9xPocDwXFu2LHEmJ/f7t8TXuBKc cS8/H8Yja+L4i6I5oPRtX33ib+kqqVL3EN8+EHLzFglXJva/QyzKo+5N5OiFL1+s8eKW xh+Mj//xDDS9Kh+2VuVx0MTpdVyl4lk3vqXBKT/PIMku1nDjQLLKkIGPYxQfMU9R4au9 XOkaYjHD9oeDnvA3nk8bjfxWDsN6hzWv26bGWaXDfcXZM4r8sV5uNWZRBf3m270qZ15+ 5TsEZ6C9Ebx3lRpQejr9YzJ9pttchVIHz9qhsBcUIx0A4hJMUZlZaL5lxVTWpB+F9RCS RmJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=4lhJOT+ni92h/3bzukXVxHSwKuz3QL8BOc03Ek0sOyg=; b=ZSwAKLsQ7qaeknia1Iw34ojjxLCiTimV88zLXE5CC+FfePbjMPlv5xG3M7sE7cB9Zm AgRtQ65yG0hBOsQ72xH7iymOG0mkKD7rWvnoXuP+peoX1nIZXIO5SjezxfRmCf2KaZN5 iOeQmg04IRIE+ndhXIo1G3ytx+y0BDx/xDphf/6+wM/tLZABNMtChmk4lvzxVAc/7eRc gYGgyUcbd/9degRSFiVmQiMEvAZkjIEe0xG1fwsXrJQhFHjOFJTr8i1M7d6qSkBXFmzR GHCNfIVc+YWJM4slCtvbVfIkAaydvKrjEOWWS4t8ncA730bn3jPrnclN2MHULSvUJ54a parQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLpmBV9pvf35GbL1rwBS9w6HXu7UhWeSfCeleEDwVXTz3IyVMZEXNtrqeFtkP1HoGXw4Trxims7VnVAtA== X-Received: by 10.50.32.71 with SMTP id g7mr13446562igi.55.1459234866931; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:01:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.26.131 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:00:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D1FB08E-DAAF-452D-936E-C089EE050B87@gmail.com> References: <8BCCD0E2-E6D4-4687-9D89-D177E69E1259@gmail.com> <56DE1D83.8050901@lojban.org> <8EC7FC36-8C8F-43FD-AE6A-C704D1D9C2CE@gmail.com> <12678381.nPyR9sEY1K@caracal> <56E0AE11.8020708@lojban.org> <56E1F54E.3040501@lojban.org> <56EF1C47.6060900@lojban.org> <56F467BF.9060405@lojban.org> <4D1FB08E-DAAF-452D-936E-C089EE050B87@gmail.com> From: Alex Burka Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:00:47 -0400 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2015 Annual Meeting - Old Business X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0919877814868307597==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============0919877814868307597== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10cb2de32dc9052f2a9723 --047d7b10cb2de32dc9052f2a9723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I echo what Karen said and vote the same way. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Karen Stein wrote: > My only real objections to this proposal are that after all the discussion > I'm left wondering why it is necessary and how it will be of any use if the > wording is so complex it took so much discussion to even understand it. > > I therefore vote against this notion unless it can be rewritten for > clarity or an explanation be amended to it. > > karis > > On March 24, 2016 10:13:12 PM EDT, Curtis Franks < > curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > I think that it can be safely understood that the BYFY is charged with >> maintaining CLL as the defining standard for the language as a whole and >> its grammar. >> >> In order for clarity, I hereby move that: Whensoever a BPFK exists, >> whensoever a CLL exists, and whensoever a Lojban language is to have any >> defining standards in whole or in part, then the BPFK is charged with >> maintaining the CLL as the defining standard(s) for the language or any of >> its versions as a whole or in part, including but not limited to its >> grammar. The BPFK is to have the authority necessary for the achieving of >> these goals, as determined and prescribed solely by this body (the LLG). >> This motion is not intended to make assertions as to the merits or >> implementation of the existence or practice of any of these conditions; it >> merely defines one of possibly many roles (for) which any organization >> which is to act as a BPFK will be responsible in fulfilling and conducting >> - as well as the implicit establishment of minimal powers associated with >> its acting in that capacity. >> >> Furthermore, I move that: Under the same conditions, the BPFK is the >> unique organization so charged and endowed with the authority pursuant to >> these goals. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --047d7b10cb2de32dc9052f2a9723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I echo what Karen said and vote the same way.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at = 2:57 AM, Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
My only real objections to this proposal= are that after all the discussion I'm left wondering why it is necessa= ry and how it will be of any use if the wording is so complex it took so mu= ch discussion to even understand it.

I therefore vote against this notion unless it can be rewritten for clarity= or an explanation be amended to it.

karis

On March 24,= 2016 10:13:12 PM EDT, Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> wrote:
=

> I think that it can be safely understood that the BYFY = is charged with maintaining CLL as the defining standard for the language a= s a whole and its grammar.

In order for clarity, I hereby move that: Whensoever a BPFK = exists, whensoever a CLL exists, and whensoever a Lojban language is to hav= e any defining standards in whole or in part, then the BPFK is charged with= maintaining the CLL as the defining standard(s) for the language or any of= its versions as a whole or in part, including but not limited to its gramm= ar. The BPFK is to have the authority necessary for the achieving of these = goals, as determined and prescribed solely by this body (the LLG). This mot= ion is not intended to make assertions as to the merits or implementation o= f the existence or practice of any of these conditions; it merely defines o= ne of possibly many roles (for) which any organization which is to act as a= BPFK will be responsible in fulfilling and conducting - as well as the imp= licit establishment of minimal powers associated with its acting in that ca= pacity.

Furthermore, I move that: Under the same conditions, the BPF= K is the unique organization so charged and endowed with the authority purs= uant to these goals.


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