Received: from localhost ([::1]:46624 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1as74n-0006mY-Jf; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:10:45 -0700 Received: from mail-lf0-f50.google.com ([209.85.215.50]:35533) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1as74g-0006lg-GW for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:10:43 -0700 Received: by mail-lf0-f50.google.com with SMTP id c126so212301776lfb.2 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=m+lbZjbmk6bf83UZL9p8fTrS5JKGbjqy5VBe6YpZOFM=; b=sj7kwxKchRu5XZ/B9M8JzQGxLhn/Nd7SvP0z2N8iegAA3ze/r/y0VVapKTizcChG7q JfpW7RtK1JoJoHLSUv6w9pHoMQe2ez69+BVBdwuZyzHKLzYD9Aft+SDx9wPoOakcEhqU 2gGpzqUQHVAwuKBiCF+fDEv/aUNfV1zyAxeDjbQuCZgH+rcRkrCfPTgvqlp7JTaHXMzb SngNTBDxcWyFeAmGeif8PAfMEEiTcK0z8U66kKsqcF8szkqFL2l2vx2A1Tnux5Pw5ICz TERyuVFYh/eT/RJoxyfbJgNeyDlTduPQ2gbPzSXviqL+TfeEzItpPnpTbjheTfAfAmV8 gP3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=m+lbZjbmk6bf83UZL9p8fTrS5JKGbjqy5VBe6YpZOFM=; b=DpS7eSfufiSWZ1ueJxLuEmKOEwlA8c3dRlVrmcH0nutXA4QNL6ZFYKzrSrSpPJYe23 /j1EQQ7Tifge5IcZOtqRsiHWE6HWGPLzsbs1SPIDbMfrJTepFr/mpce1PQ+NocgAlOsT v5eeJ/mkNx6Q13ScM6AVfk9THFC8XwUkzxty9DgKUQplmge0/t1gDZViTH3BEC9Khg2R +1t8mlyqk4WsfMUEX1rQdVQC7WBP0WbZT/DqXKJ5muEyceBUqDEKT7r+aXyEvHNY9dAu EH5UR5ksOdLploeT7+WrmQURyeTXFdRlaP/C+aAkusaBU8tSBwWqFlGEX/PiZZFUb61n pVWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FW1HQhnqvAOXyuzPqpcmbpbRMbhlfjVVB/ynRwWUMV+p8DA5XB9SpA1mXcD+oWjl907MO+F8ORdjaDl9Q== X-Received: by 10.112.163.135 with SMTP id yi7mr13768658lbb.122.1460977831429; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:10:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.144.229 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:09:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6325EAE8-DB6C-4ED2-83E1-CCEE409493B5@gmail.com> References: <571271C9.7050002@lojban.org> <5713E3F7.2050104@lojban.org> <6325EAE8-DB6C-4ED2-83E1-CCEE409493B5@gmail.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:09:51 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Annual meeting: New Business, anyone? X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3475854295155841172==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3475854295155841172== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01183bc8aacd430530c0687a --089e01183bc8aacd430530c0687a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-04-18 13:59 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein : > As far as the mixing of officially sanctioned material and non-sanctioned > material my only concern is that the separation needs to be made clear to > users of the website. > In fact this not only was the original idea but ALL pages imported from the earlier wiki were initially labeled with "jbocre: " prefix. No one got interested in improving that and selecting official pages at that time so I renamed them to normal names especially after Robin made the mediawiki official and made older urls redirect to the new wiki. > I have no desire to sanction Gleki. > > Oh, and I vote against adjournment at this time. > > . karis. > > On April 18, 2016 2:29:34 AM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> 2016-04-18 3:32 GMT+03:00 guskant : >> >>> The mediawiki engine is a set of programs for maintaining wiki pages >>> on the official website. The web directory for the official website is >>> a symbolic link of a subdirectory of Gleki's personal directory on >>> Vrici server that is run on Robin's machine. The contents of the >>> official website are under control of Gleki, not of Robin. >>> >>> Gleki put in the same directory his tools personalized for the purpose >>> of teaching an unofficial language that he called "modern dialects of >>> Lojban". That is abuse of his administratorship on the official web >>> contents. >>> >> >> That's not true. Only the directory /extensions has a symbolic link. >> >> As for personal tools the website mostly consists of unofficial tools >> like la jbofi'e, jbovlaste containing a lot of unofficial words and the >> mediawiki itself which has many unofficial pages etc. So if one wants to be >> consistent then this person needs to suggest removing all of this content. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > -- Karen Stein -- > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --089e01183bc8aacd430530c0687a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2016-04-18 13:59 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com&= gt;:
As far as the mixing of = officially sanctioned material and non-sanctioned material my only concern = is that the separation needs to be made clear to users of the website.

In fact this not only was the original id= ea but ALL pages imported from the earlier wiki were initially labeled with= "jbocre: " prefix. No one got interested in improving that and s= electing official pages at that time so I renamed them to normal names espe= cially after Robin made the mediawiki official and made older urls redirect= to the new wiki.


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I have no desire to sanction Gleki.

Oh, and I vote against adjournment at this time.

. karis.

On April= 18, 2016 2:29:34 AM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

= 2016-04-18 3:32 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
The mediawiki engine is a set of = programs for maintaining wiki pages
on the official website. The web directory for the official website is
a symbolic link of a subdirectory of Gleki's personal directory on
Vrici server that is run on Robin's machine. The contents of the
official website are under control of Gleki, not of Robin.

Gleki put in the same directory his tools personalized for the purpose
of teaching an unofficial language that he called "modern dialects of<= br> Lojban". That is abuse of his administratorship on the official web contents.

That's not true. Only the directo= ry /extensions has a symbolic link.

As for personal tools the website mostly cons= ists of unofficial tools like la jbofi'e, jbovlaste containing a lot of= unofficial words and the mediawiki itself which has many unofficial pages = etc. So if one wants to be consistent then this person needs to suggest rem= oving all of this content.


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