Received: from localhost ([::1]:53726 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1b0NPe-00087V-UZ; Tue, 10 May 2016 23:14:27 -0700 Received: from mail-vk0-f48.google.com ([209.85.213.48]:36670) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1b0NPX-00086Q-Tt for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 23:14:24 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id s184so44541304vkb.3 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 23:14:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=7TmNWPi6ZqfuiSbAFfWM/darz/+Q4mOxv6yEXXW5btc=; b=VNGyP6VGbyjr6+af/QmPLgbqcSQW4nrckeQxoLf5dhKq77MbDEkKKei7MgQQRBtFZU 0hXcsangf1gW6DOqTyw6vs/msKXZunDrj+/QNYeJapZnFKTUbjWZe1i3ouiyrGX0W/Nb 6NFMH7f//SVfnTHScJA4Q1UmU1ZCUee6J3yjXL9jsAUV9+G4GHrNeEV5zJ6oTWLKHZdr EbTmyciJkixmG8vg2sKpkOxH0svIcjPuqbrny61fLFjtwQsgeGkdkVRjeaou4+Hmpb4Y MG582kCLjRSVZfkUesvuaZRW0gtTcsO//H+7CYCwg3YN2D6ODdWXzqt4kTGBwv9ijIMK 1PjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=7TmNWPi6ZqfuiSbAFfWM/darz/+Q4mOxv6yEXXW5btc=; b=F6P3S/bzKp4OEr79sPKJMHVTvhrPzRYrIqGTdwHabbB2teY3pWUIoYxdCpI1jwjtZd 62ph/cTnBmuF61Ji8u3+VDYuQduGncubXwU7owie4h0OoQoQDtWnqBkHcZUDItb7Wcgt 84wnPq53pOSoKxAk5j6fkN1I1xogGtT8inWyYuxstBb4JvzCXyCH+5xVuuAByCD0DZ4J bZe/4I/sn2FOQXeatVWikhQ71YqOfPOxSl9RkuQ8xQr9R1k1i+ZPWBBThJdWkqAfg1rC O6LQG0J030nINhv7DM/SbOOlDGtnMWv8XyF8IWgKoSPdIzd1PZr9x4Ze2GMESvAr/URe sdyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FU9gX++zOXZeamTlIym946KgjLHFstfa9KBLI1JdlaW/cJZxKAJGKRoXYRyf/AXrdSJSXlGozNL1iqjzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.176.6.135 with SMTP id g7mr817178uag.100.1462947253548; Tue, 10 May 2016 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.66.134 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2016 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.66.134 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2016 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 02:14:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Curtis Franks To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Violation of copyright X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3988784778415893957==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3988784778415893957== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c047d785f7b0b05328af37c --94eb2c047d785f7b0b05328af37c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree. Even if we care to follow this issue up, we should play it safe and remove it at least until the matter is settled. On May 11, 2016 01:56, "guskant" wrote: > I received a demand from a Japanese professional artist ( > https://twitter.com/tyo_md > ) > for removing one of her artworks from the header image of a Russian Lojban > group: > http://vk.com/menli.bangu > (archive of the current state: http://archive.is/WhoYP ) > > She said she had never been asked for the permission of use of the picture > for that group. The artist is professional and the artworks are not > copylefted. Usually, anyone who wants to use her artworks must consult her, > and must even pay for that in many cases. That picture was originally > donated to Cogas, one of the most active Lojbanists in Japan, for one of > his twitter accounts > https://twitter.com/lojytan_bot > for the friendship between Cogas and the artist. Cogas was not informed of > use of the picture for the Russian Lojban group either. The picture was > therfore stolen by the Russian Lojban group, and the copyright holder has > not been aware of it for a long time. > > I herewith consult all members of LLG about this problem because the > Russian Lojban group in question is recommended on the Russian top page of > the official website of Lojban: > > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C!/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9 > (archive of the current state: http://archive.is/agRrY ) > > Even though the top page of the official website is not tagged with > "official contents", visitors of the Lojban top page might believe that LLG > supports the violation of copyright of an artist for the Russian Lojban > group. > > I recommend immediately removing the picture from the group page. I guess > Gleki can take responsibility for that. > > mi'e la guskant > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --94eb2c047d785f7b0b05328af37c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree. Even if we care to follow this issue up, we should = play it safe and remove it at least until the matter is settled.

On May 11, 2016 01:56, "guskant" <<= a href=3D"mailto:gusni.kantu@gmail.com">gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote= :
<= div>I received a demand from a Japanese professional artist (
)
for removing one of her artworks from the h= eader image of a Russian Lojban group:
(arch= ive of the current state: http://archive.is/WhoYP )

She said she ha= d never been asked for the permission of use of the picture for that group.= The artist is professional and the artworks are not copylefted. Usually, a= nyone who wants to use her artworks must consult her, and must even pay for= that in many cases. That picture was originally donated to Cogas, one of t= he most active Lojbanists in Japan, for one of his twitter accounts
https://tw= itter.com/lojytan_bot
for the friendship between Cogas and th= e artist. Cogas was not informed of use of the picture for the Russian Lojb= an group either. The picture was therfore stolen by the Russian Lojban grou= p, and the copyright holder has not been aware of it for a long time.
=

I herewith consult all members of LLG about this proble= m because the Russian Lojban group in question is recommended on the Russia= n top page of the official website of Lojban:
(archive of the curren= t state: http://archi= ve.is/agRrY )

Even though the top page of the = official website is not tagged with "official contents", visitors= of the Lojban top page might believe that LLG supports the violation of co= pyright of an artist for the Russian Lojban group.

I recommend immediately removing the picture from the group page. I guess = Gleki can take responsibility for that.

mi'e l= a guskant


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