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From: guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 02:16:51 +0000
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2016-05-12 14:57 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:
>
>
> 2016-05-12 16:40 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
>>
>> 2016-05-12 12:24 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > 2016-05-12 15:15 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Originally, each tiki-based page had clear history of edition on the
>> >> page itself, and all visitors had access to the information of the
>> >> creator and editors of the page. It was very helpful for visitors who
>> >> want to know the responsibility of every part of the pages. I regret
>> >> that the whole history vanished when the tiki pages were copied to
>> >> mediawiki, though I understand it was a result of a technical issue.
>> >
>> >
>> > So now we need to tag all the pages, even the tiki ones, right?
>> >
>>
>> No. A tag is required for personal original research pages, not for
>> information pages like news, lists of lojbanic creations and so on.
>
>
> I can do that for all pages at once in "Main" namespace. Then you can delete
> this message from pages you think should noit contain it.


That is one of possible ways for solution, but why should I spend my
time for the problem produced by you?
You could and can tag all pages of your original research by yourself.

You once suggested Zipcpi to tag his pages about his original idea
with his name, and he obeyed, while you leave your original research
without mentioning the responsibility. Ilmen uses his User's page for
putting his philosophical essay, while you freely put your original
research on common pages without mentioning the responsibility. Why
paunai you believe that only your original research were permitted to
be put on common pages without mentioning the responsibility?


>
> What about tiki pages? Should original research there be marked?
>

tiki pages had edition history on each page accessible to anonymous
visitors, and therefore it was not a big problem that each page has no
tag about the responsibility. The copied pages from them to mediawiki
have lost the history, so we need to modify some of the pages if the
responsibility is unclear to visitors. That depends on the contents of
pages.


2016-05-12 14:58 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:
>
>
> 2016-05-12 17:29 GMT+03:00 And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>> I support what John says and disagree with taking down the Loglan article.
>>
>> (Also, and without wanting to initiate a new and unnecessary direction for
>> the discussion, I would point out that LLG's stated mission of supporting
>> linguistic scholarship entails supporting SciHub and opposing Elsevier
>> wherever practicable. Since this is currently nowhere practicable, further
>> discussion is for the time being superfluous.)
>
>
> Well, whatever comes out both solutions (copying to a separate website or
> leaving as it is now) are easy to implement.
>

Our subject on moving contents to anywhere out of the official website
is not about scientific resources but about creative works in Lojban.
I raised the subject because the copyright issues vary according to
countries and may bring an unexpected trouble to the official body.
Please don't turn away from the topic.

mi'e la guskant

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