Received: from localhost ([::1]:58804 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bB2uv-0006tu-D9; Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:34:49 -0700 Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net ([68.230.241.217]:47806) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bB2ua-0006sb-D5 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:34:47 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo209.cox.net ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20160609163422.SRJS7655.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo209.cox.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2016 12:34:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.244.98]) by eastrmimpo209.cox.net with cox id 4gaN1t0012869s801gaNQt; Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:34:22 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.57599A8E.00C1, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=J6Ik7WXS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:117 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ksa3GqghJ-gtMsE_PjQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none To: llg-members@lojban.org From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. Message-ID: <8d3f617b-433a-326a-b64a-c756882d5160@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 12:35:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: [Llg-members] (2015 Annual meeting) - anyone besides gleki paying attention? X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org gleki just noted to me that the meeting has been idle for a while. I'm glad someone finally noticed, and took pain to say something. It has been very hard for me to lead the community in the last couple of years, as my own focus on Lojban has waned for health and other reasons, and the community itself seems to no longer be centered around the email lists as it had for the last 25-odd years. The meeting has suffered as a result. I owe people an apology for my own failings in this. It makes it more important that other people start stepping up. It has been something like 6 weeks since the last meeting discussion died away, or 4 weeks if one considers the discussion of copyrights to be part of the meeting. I can't tell, because guskant started the discussion, and I don't think I ever saw a motion. But 4 or 6 weeks with nothing happening, and not even a comment from the membership is kinda sad. There was at least one motion from Karen in the prior discussion, and it was seconded by Curtis Frank, but I think Karen withdrew the motion and/or someone modified the motion. So I am not sure whether there remained a motion on the floor, and what it is. There were earlier motions, I think from Craig and guskant, that I don't think were even seconded. While there was some use of subject lines to help someone track the discussion, it wasn't clear enough for me to follow, especially when a dozen messages would appear discussing a motion before I even had a chance to acknowledge the motion, and people launched into new topics without a motion (though sometimes at least a different subject line). At any rate, I am not all that sure where we are. If there is a motion on the floor that needs to be decided, I would like either the mover or the seconder to speak up, so we can call a vote. If no one speaks up within a few days we probably should adjourn, so the board can meet and start planning the 2016 meeting (possibly run by someone other than myself, and maybe with some methodology that helps people keep track of what is going on). New motions are also allowed (perhaps some sort of official commendation on Robin's achievement is worth considering). But let's try to make it snappy(snappier). lojbab _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members