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Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> When that's done, we'll have something that is available online in
> decent HTML and as PDF for printing, and includes all the errata
> (but no substantive changes in content).  We will then have to
> decide what to do with the current red books, as we will then have
> the option of print-on-demand-ing CLLv1.1, or we could wait until
> CLLv2 is ready and continue selling red books in the meantime;
> opinions welcome.

Thanks for the report, BTW.

CLLv1.1

Assuming that there are at least some changes in pagination, how is the 
currency and accuracy of the index being maintained?  Or are you 
dispensing with the index in a proposed POD?

What is the likely page-count, and does our POD producer do good quality 
paperbacks in that size?  (I'm assuming that hard-bound POD isn't 
offered, but would welcome correction).  What would be the likely cost?

All of these are factors in my opinion on a POD product.  I'm amenable, 
but still favor selling red books as long as possible.  There will be 
people who will still want a quality hardbound, even if it is slightly 
obsolete due to errata corrections, especially if there is an 
online/downloadable text that they can check.  (I suspect that if they 
are available, some will still want a 1st edition redbook even after 
CLLv2 is out, though probably a much smaller number, simply because it 
is a 1st edition, and therefore has some collector value.)

If a 1.1 POD is not indexed, that gives even more reason to buy a red 
book over a POD copy - on the other hand, there is somewhat less need 
for an index in an online file version, which is searchable (though even 
there, an index prepared smartly is more effective than a text search, 
especially for common words, and multi-word concept phrases).

Should we consider selling Kindle or other reader-formats, as well?  No 
idea what the demand might be for these.

> CLLv2 is the next step, and is basically CLLv1.1 plus whatever I
> think is important; in particular xorlo and probably dotside, but
> probably not much more than that.  The goal is incremental,
> comprehensible changes such that no-one freaks out too much about
> any particular change.
> 
> Please don't discuss or argue about the CLLv2 plans until and unless
> I actually present you with it to look at; we've wasted too much
> time in this community arguing over things that never happen.

%^)


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Bob LeChevalier    lojbab@lojban.org    www.lojban.org
President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

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