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Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 07:47:49AM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> 
>>Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:22:36AM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>>
>>>>Should we consider selling Kindle or other reader-formats, as
>>>>well? No idea what the demand might be for these.
>>>
>>>If at all possible I would like to do so, yes; I believe this to
>>>be easy with Lightning Source.
>>
>>We might want to consider putting 1.1 out in electronic formats.
> 
> Oh, I'm sorry, I was unclear: unless there's a vote against somehow,
> all future CLLs will be available online in electronic format (HTML
> and PDF at the very list) with the exact same data/format (as able)
> as the print version.
> 
> The question was if we would offer it in actual ebook formats, which
> may (or may not, I haven't researched) be trickier.

That is what I meant by electronic formats.  I should have used the more 
precise "e-books".  (The question that pops into mind is how we can 
distinguish the two in Lojban, since both are equally "books" and both 
are equally "e". zo'o)

> IMO, all the current "what's online isn't the real CLL" thing has
> bought us is bad will.  I have no evidence that it has cost us sales
> to people who could actually reasonably afford a copy.
> 
> I suspect that making an ebook would be trivial once everything else
> is done, I don't know for sure, so I don't want to promise.

Agreed.

>>c) we get some idea of the market in the absence of other
>>alternatives, which can guide future decisions, since I assume
>>that there are some costs in time/effort, and perhaps dollars, for
>>each format/offering we make.
> 
> Well ideally I'd figure out how to generate EPUB from our source,
> and making all three formats (PDF, HTML, EPUB) would be a matter of
> running "make", as is true currently for the first two formats.

I don't know "EPUB".  Is that the Kindle format?

> I believe there is a cost for each format, but it's like $100 or
> something.

Which might or moght not pay for itself fairly quickly depending on the 
price.

>>But in all this, a major consideration must be how much extra
>>workload it imposes on you to turn a draft into a product.
> 
> 
> Insignificant.  It's basically "Hey, LS, here's a PDF".
> 
> /me loves LS so much.

I have gained significant confidence in them, myself.

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Bob LeChevalier    lojbab@lojban.org    www.lojban.org
President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

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