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Well, an auxlang isn't going to make its inventors any money, and don't sell your house to fund it, because it might not succeed in your lifetime, and one-house's-worth of funding isn't going to tip it from failure to success; but since there has never been an auxlang that is functionally superior to natlangs, there's no way of judging whether such an auxlang would succeed (in getting used for purposes served better by the auxlang than by the natlang). I think that the value of its success multiplied by the probability of its success is enough to make it worthwhile for me to donate some of my time to it for the betterment of the world.

--And.

Matt Arnold, On 18/11/2012 16:17:
> An auxlang will succeed when Bulletball is an Olympic sport.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOw2yWMSfk
>
> The Senior Olympics don't count.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, And Rosta<and.rosta@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Robin Lee Powell, On 18/11/2012 00:47:
>>
>>> Thanks for the explanation.  Your repsonse implies that there's an
>>> actual contender out there; is that true?  It's news to me if so.
>>
>>
>> Xorban would count as an actual contender, since it's now out there in the
>> public world, albeit in inchoate form, having been born accidentally in
>> August 2012.
>>
>>
>>> Is there another loglang with, say, 20 active community members?  If
>>> not, I find all your points fairly irrelevant, but I can understand
>>> why you wouldn't.
>>
>>
>> Xorban doesn't have 20 active community members but has the most active
>> community focused on loglang development (compared to Lojban, Ceqli, Guaspi;
>> I don't monitor what's going on with Loglan), tho it's early days. I've
>> always thought the size and vitality of the Lojban community was important,
>> in that it seemed likely that because loglangers gravitate thither, it would
>> be from within that community that a collaborative project to develop an
>> adequate auxloglang might emerge.
>>
>> I'm not sure why you'd ask about number of active community members yet find
>> my points irrelevant. I said "The reason for anyone joining the Lojban
>> community now would be a liking for the language and/or the community"; I
>> agree that the size of the active Lojbanist community is a potential
>> attraction for many (of the few interested in invented languages in the
>> first place). Maybe you're thinking that you do want there to be an
>> auxloglang, but a relatively poorly designed one with an active user base
>> has a better chance of success than a relatively well designed one without
>> an active user base? If so, I guess you'd have to make your own judgement
>> about the how big the difference in design quality is, how significant the
>> difference in community size is, and the relative importance of those two in
>> furthering the auxloglang goal. I have my own views on that, but I won't
>> blurt them into the middle of the LLG Annual Meeting.
>>
>> --And.
>>
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