Received: from localhost ([::1]:59584 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WIMHG-0006zR-Kx; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:58:46 -0800 Received: from iad2.alfar.com ([208.72.84.37]:61910) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WIMH6-0006zK-Ql for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:58:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iad2.alfar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BC6105E9FA for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:58:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alfar.com Received: from iad2.alfar.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iad2.alfar.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3NA1f1vIejyL for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tommys-mbp.home (pool-96-231-199-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.231.199.9]) by iad2.alfar.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80B31105E9F1 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: TommyLee Whitlock Message-Id: <17BB86AF-6716-42C7-AD29-94A4F976BB97@whitlock.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:58:29 -0500 References: <52E80298.4090002@lojban.org> <530A53D7.1070201@lojban.org> <20140225005640.GP16314@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <530C8E32.9090703@lojban.org> To: llg-members@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <530C8E32.9090703@lojban.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Llg-members] *** LLG 2013 Annual Meeting: President's report - book publication and the future of LLG as an organization X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0606036715286503730==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============0606036715286503730== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0C8329DB-A5EE-4B49-A9DB-1E4E2A472032" --Apple-Mail=_0C8329DB-A5EE-4B49-A9DB-1E4E2A472032 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > We probably need some way for people to submit Lojban text for others = to read, possibly multiple feeds (one for stuff that people are = reasonably certain is good Lojban, and one for writings by learners = seeking feedback). The mailing list used to be a suitable place for = this, but these days is mostly limited to technical discussions, with an = occasional "how to say it" that is often more a matter of tricky or = obscure English semantics rather than actual Lojban difficulty. =20 As long as Facebook is still popular, it can (and apparently does) serve = the purpose. Fwiw, I just did a simple search for lojban on FB and = there are several lojban groups on FB already, including one that is = 1,259 members strong. There is one for Brazil, one in Swedish, and one = in Hong Kong, among others. Some are closed groups and some are open. = It appears that PaulFrancis is a member of several of them. There are = also 2 lojban pages and one of them sports the lojban =93logo=94. =20 So, that horse has left the barn already! But I am not surprised. Is = anyone in this meeting on any of those groups? If not, someone should = be. This could be a way to offer support from the =93mother ship=94 and = attract more interest. (but over 1,300 combined is pretty good = already!) No reason why other groups couldn=92t be encouraged around = national languages, such as French, German, Russian, etc. lojban groups = with links to the US group(s). I=92d recommend somebody starting and = moderating a page for the technical discussions. =20 One thing I noted on a couple of the groups is a quote from the NY Times = of 2010: =20 In an interview in 2010 with the New York Times, Arika Okrent, the = author of In the Land of Invented Languages, stated: "The constructed = language with the most complete grammar is probably Lojban =96 a = language created to reflect the principles of logic." That looks like a pretty good endorsement to me. =20 TommyLee=20= --Apple-Mail=_0C8329DB-A5EE-4B49-A9DB-1E4E2A472032 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
On Feb 25, 2014, at 7:36 AM, = Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> = wrote:
We probably need some way for people = to submit Lojban text for others to read, possibly multiple feeds (one = for stuff that people are reasonably certain is good Lojban, = and one for writings by learners seeking feedback).  The = mailing list used to be a suitable place for this, but these days is = mostly limited to technical discussions, with an occasional "how to = say it" that is often more a matter of tricky or obscure English = semantics rather than actual Lojban = difficulty.  

As long as Facebook is = still popular, it can (and apparently does) serve the purpose. =  Fwiw, I just did a simple search for lojban on FB and there are = several lojban groups on FB already, including one that is 1,259 members = strong.  There is one for Brazil, one in Swedish, and one in Hong = Kong, among others.  Some are closed groups and some are open. =  It appears that PaulFrancis is a member of several of them. =  There are also 2 lojban pages and one of them sports the lojban = =93logo=94.  

So, that horse has left the = barn already!  But I am not surprised.  Is anyone in this = meeting on any of those groups?  If not, someone should be. This = could be a way to offer support from the =93mother ship=94 and attract = more interest.  (but over 1,300 combined is pretty good already!) =  No reason why other groups couldn=92t be encouraged around = national languages, such as French, German, Russian, etc. lojban groups = with links to the US group(s).  I=92d recommend somebody starting = and moderating a page for the technical discussions. =  

One thing I noted on a couple of the = groups is a quote from the NY Times of 2010:  
In an = interview in 2010 with the New York Times, Arika Okrent, the author of = In the Land of Invented Languages, stated: "The constructed language = with the most complete grammar is probably Lojban =96 a language = created to reflect the principles of = logic."

That looks like a pretty = good endorsement to me. =  

TommyLee 
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