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I'd love to see the video, Bob. Most of the videos I've seen where people claim Pilger is dissipating, it looks to me more like it's just being hidden from view. Not that the tornado is actually gone, the observer just can't see it anymore because it becomes rain wrapped. That was the case for us, where the tornado looked like it just became completely rain wrapped. Even if the condensation funnel quickly dissolved I suspect the tornadic circulation persisted in that rain core. It's amazing to me how much difference a little rain makes in the visibility between two different chasers. A half mile, or a 30 degree difference in viewing angle, and a couple of rain curtains between the two observers and they have radically different views of the storm.

Do we need separate mesos to have separate tornadoes? I'd say a mesocyclone with a large tornado, that produces a satellite with a distinctly separate debris cloud/damage path, is a separate tornado. Such would be the case for this event too, even if that's not the Pilger EF4 and the Wakefield parent Meso produced a separate satellite. If they were from the same tornado cyclone, then yeah, the damage path and tornadic circulation would probably coincide. The point at which this satellite's circulation moves into the core circulation of the Wakefield EF4 is the point at which I'd say the two merged. That happens later than this sequence though. The debris cloud appears to make it at least around the east side of the Wakefield tornado, heading north, before the funnel and debris rope out to the point of dissipation.

It's one big, dynamic fluid mass though, not distinct objects we're dealing with here. That this rope out was under the influence of a larger wind field shouldn't or be a caveat in counting its forward speed. Tornadoes are always under the influence of the larger wind wind fields they are moving through, and the RFD and adjacent tornadic circulations are likely always influencing a tornado's forward speed.