Received: from localhost ([::1]:49720 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YCvTW-0001kH-CG; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:25:30 -0800 Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com ([209.85.192.42]:61470) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YCvTR-0001jz-Nk for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:25:26 -0800 Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id q107so9067311qgd.1 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:25:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Iw9tCIdllW8syymCr4QXDkMvB95CrO5OK5TW5EdFttg=; b=fBS+ash1VftDdgDB6NThMFDGQe663zL6OXBSU61aTjC7k/iadChu64gr/aHNfSlY4x fkag5tzbDHLYNDFrrV9QkmtvUr6Lx/VX8dEc5RXrqA2VIraZja/mvwitpycK8lvlOexd AgBp4fntRfd8etOTwNvMEJArQ1u6vXjMhZB++9wxxCAzcmD1WSL1xE7Pie7G3NMUBKbM YOf19VeTcSvEauxqrwrfbW7tsVoOV4ua4+rPy2X3+dDdXJmSgnTgxyGo70w0yJI3bq10 tSW7wsLgK9rxJLPpTM+HVdEnxDrY79Qjri/s2QC4ToJLLWDq/VLSY2Voz6ideV7etNwU 7ngg== X-Received: by 10.140.82.136 with SMTP id h8mr29167269qgd.75.1421609119298; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from caliban.fios-router.home (pool-100-33-73-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [100.33.73.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s9sm10354743qge.19.2015.01.18.11.25.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:25:18 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:25:17 -0500 Message-Id: <79E9C752-4C68-4E83-B12C-99EC5508CFAF@gmail.com> References: <6204AE2F-BDEC-4AB8-B0A7-7705899B7D7A@gmail.com> To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.7 X-Spam_score_int: 7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: > 1. How are new members supposed to be approved in BPFK? I have deliberately left the determination of membership unspecified. I would hope that BPFK would specify clear policies about membership, but think it's unnecessary for LLG to "micro-manage" BPFK on such details. [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in gmail.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. IN] [A] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.192.42 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (shunpiker[at]gmail.com) -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Revitalizing BPFK X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org > 1. How are new members supposed to be approved in BPFK? I have deliberately left the determination of membership unspecified. I would hope that BPFK would specify clear policies about membership, but think it's unnecessary for LLG to "micro-manage" BPFK on such details. > 2. I suggest that the bpfk-list be open for everyone for commenting however only votes of official members are counted during voting. That seems like a sensible suggestion, although again I would defer to the will of BPFK on this detail. > 3. I suggest that a simple majority of votes be necessary during accepting the results of voting for new issues. Are you referring to voting within LLG or BPFK? > 4. As of now I suggest that all members of LLG + J. Cowan + la .aionys. automatically become members of LLG (did I miss anyone active there?) I assume you mean BPFK. I'd prefer that BPFK be allowed to determine their own membership policies, but I agree that la balgenpre and .aionys. would have a lot to contribute to BPFK proceedings. --Riley mi'e la mukti mu'o _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members