Received: from localhost ([::1]:36906 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX4h-0002sY-AU; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 10:14:07 -0700 Received: from mail-qk0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]:34066) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YfX4e-0002sP-AD for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 10:14:05 -0700 Received: by qkgx75 with SMTP id x75so55883045qkg.1 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4YqR70AcdcbzhVFaPPUytOgq6OmIuGuLuA/n7I1JJtQ=; b=I6PEC16InqGPc7aiMP6/3AC7hqgQXMUYBIpooj2OoL7sS6OGCSzDpFU8ebpHVEiAtu zud8LdYrQPXGPPOi0keVnUfbiezl5INUFrqq/TGv9rW869WWlDAhi/QsWPtDaGiKJKD9 +0Y9Vw//a8M1G/WS/J5ab01OXXnK8sRmjPnj8BZmLfAclJlLHiXt468A/heiGtp7Oc2O cHaqVxKYZ5/LpWiE84m5HST7cGMbb43vqgOroh8fTagunmdVTeYKzmVQy97bS8ry4ip3 BXS5L+Q2JLIUmv/mJO33xfmDunc52eGP5ckVghAvfe8mB3tEn2cyrKLuaZpnWl0OB/Wf nUbQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.15.163 with SMTP id 35mr37657483qkp.96.1428426838017; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.86.211 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 18:13:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: And Rosta To: "llg-members@lojban.org" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Detailed Proposal of a Project Manager X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2849237552799716740==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============2849237552799716740== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1146d778448ad30513258aff --001a1146d778448ad30513258aff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Ali Sajid Imami wrote: > I already have a candidate in mind, someone I implicitly trust and have > worked with in similar situations. The willingness will be a huge plus, > although not necessarily a requirement. > Do you mean that your candidate would be willing to work in Lojban when their interlocutors prefer it? That's a big bonus. > > I'd calculate the position to be about 25 hours a week. With about 100 > hours a month should be fair. I think we can pay them off LLGs current > account, as a contractor. I know LLG can't have an employee but I think we > are allowed contractors. Something slightly above minimum wage for a person > in Pakistan would be more than enough for this position. > Is there really so much work of the sort you described, 1200 hours per year? I'd have guesstimated 200--400 hours per year, but with very little empirical basis for that. My googling suggests that the full-time PK minimum wage is $110 (USD) per month. On first-world-ish assumptions of a 37 hour week and a month of paid holiday, that's 147 hours per month. So the cost of 1200 hrs per year would be c $75 per month ($900 a year), and the cost of 200--400 hrs per year would be c $12.50--$25 per month ($150--$300 a year). Do those sums match what you had in mind? If so, what about, say, a trial, initially for a year, for $12.50 a month for an average of 16.7 hours a month? Make any necessary adjustments so that the rate of pay is not arseholey or unconscionably exploitative. If it's a roaring success and the funds are available, then it could be increased. --And. --001a1146d778448ad30513258aff Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Ali Sajid Imami <<= a href=3D"mailto:ali.sajid.imami@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ali.sajid.ima= mi@gmail.com> wrote:
I already = have a candidate in mind, someone I implicitly trust and have worked with i= n similar situations. The willingness will be a huge plus, although not nec= essarily a requirement.

Do = you mean that your candidate would be willing to work in Lojban when their = interlocutors prefer it? That's a big bonus.

= =C2=A0

I'd calculate the position t= o be about 25 hours a week. With about 100 hours a month should be fair. I = think we can pay them off LLGs current account, as a contractor. I know LLG= can't have an employee but I think we are allowed contractors. Somethi= ng slightly above minimum wage for a person in Pakistan would be more than = enough for this position.=C2=A0

Is there really so much work of the sort you described, 1200 hours per yea= r? I'd have guesstimated 200--400 hours per year, but with very little = empirical basis for that.

My googling suggests tha= t the full-time PK minimum wage is $110 (USD) per month. On first-world-ish= assumptions of a 37 hour week and a month of paid holiday, that's 147 = hours per month. So the cost of 1200 hrs per year would be c $75 per month = ($900 a year), and the cost of 200--400 hrs per year would be c $12.50--$25= per month ($150--$300 a year). Do those sums match what you had in mind?= =C2=A0

If so, what about, say, a trial, initially = for a year, for $12.50 a month for an average of 16.7 hours a month? Make a= ny necessary adjustments so that the rate of pay is not arseholey or uncons= cionably exploitative. If it's a roaring success and the funds are avai= lable, then it could be increased.

--And.
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