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On 4/15/2015 5:13 AM, guskant wrote:
> 2015-04-01 3:01 GMT+09:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:
>> Looks like magazines are declining in their popularity in general. That can
>> explain why people aren't very interested in them.
>> These days people are more used to short pieces of information, not lengthy
>> magazines or books.
>> An appropriate format is to be found, maybe something like a newsfeed where
>> you get new articles one by one, not complete issues. or just a blog where
>> you can subscribe only to articles marked with certain tags and where
>> articles are premoderated thus preventing mailing list rants and mess of
>> unsolved issues. Thus in such a newsfeed you will get a stream of high
>> quality articles with final (not initial) opinions of proficient Lojbanists.
>>
>
> My suggestion was "a periodical, maybe annual" and did not mention the length
> of each article. As you didn't agree, I thought you meant a news feed that
> reads occasional posts on variety of websites like forums or blogs.
>
>
>> it'd rather be a magazine, yes. I just don't know how it could be
>> implemented technically. Maybe just add wiki pages that can't be edited by
>> non-admins, with links to mailing list threads where they can be further
>> discussed, with tags (categories) so that they can be easily sorted out,
>> with "Share" links to social networks. Creating physical paper issues out of
>> them wouldn't be a serious problem of course.
>>
>
> Do you have accounts of closed social networks like QQ in PRC,
> Niconico or LINE in Japan? Most activities of PRC are executed on QQ.
> As for Niconico and LINE, I don't have acconts with them because I
> hate closed Japanese societies, generally. It is difficult to get in
> touch with those closed ones automatically with informatic
> technologies. We need to make contact with those people, and draw
> directly from them information about their fruits and needs.
>
> Even if you get somehow information automatically from those
> communities, do you think a machine translator would give us
> understandable texts in Lojban or in English enough to be inserted
> into a magazine? I don't think so. I prefer that people should express
> their fruits and needs with their own words in their language and in
> Lojban.

Having been the editor of the Lojban periodicals (ju'i Lobypli and le 
lojbo karni), I have to say that the primary difficulty in producing a 
periodical, regular or otherwise, is getting people to write publishable 
material.  Those periodicals stopped being published largely because I 
was having to write the entire issue, sometimes using the writings of 
others (which needed editing and or commenting).  Too much time for one 
person, especially with other tasks to manage at the same time.

I think the concept of a central web page to which any local lojban 
group (or any non-local Lojban project) could submit articles to, 
describing their activities, would be an awesome improvement over the 
isolated (and largely silent) efforts we have now.  Let people submit 
such articles in Lojban, or in their other language of choice.  Others 
could translate non-Lojban submissions into Lojban which would be linked 
to the original.  We would want links to new submissions placed in some 
prominent location (the news section on the Lojban home page, for 
example), to make it easy for people to find them.

Someone has to do the technical arrangements to make this sort of 
submission possible, and even easy, but that is a far different job than 
trying to assume editorial responsibility for a formal publication. (If 
there is enough material and readership to make a publication practical, 
we can decide how to make such a thing possible when the material exists.)

I would love to see guskant or someone else write up a description of 
the Japanese lojban community and its activities (of which I know 
nothing even though I nominally head this organization).  And this might 
encourage other groups to write up their activities.

lojbab


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