Received: from localhost ([::1]:43600 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1e8y-00082D-3X; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:13:56 -0700 Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com ([74.125.82.50]:33714) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1e8q-000823-0F for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:13:53 -0700 Received: by wgez8 with SMTP id z8so86965959wge.0 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:13:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fqp2BpN9LQKqSzD8GaQ3WKw0LO0YA8Qgy+Hjt+NxbKA=; b=yEMiR4/rjleGKCSZJ4za89nwAZ0DpN4S+9oEU0y2/PyUykCrXzibERYkOG/BOM8/i0 Vn6Vu+746zfHNYaGkB/4LiAOjSo/z80zBQC0JY6H6e7zYvmk/WlLCUHa7y0Psdgo/hgO tAHbubeg7yWy+94p96hE+uSinasMmOor9Ow1GTEgvxMPGeFGlvpyJqDxK+uwOYuWCBMV SV2uroiXH4VpQTeuzxcGdFM0FCgUdoY4fDyIQLnAHu2KUlagG+OtptgncXOreyfBOxHU 8XB6sYqviHB9NDHFW5HO2wmkVCf9jDz4A1y/ck1Ljr+6TevVgbr2PNvYqO5h3WzBi5e1 oPHw== X-Received: by 10.181.25.234 with SMTP id it10mr14745010wid.41.1433697220380; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:13:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:13:19 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: [Llg-members] paedagogics: about techniques of passive accumulation of Lojban X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5705029604894900291==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5705029604894900291== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136cbd8894ea00517f0a5a2 --001a1136cbd8894ea00517f0a5a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Since "learn grammar" methods are showing their failure to teach Lojban over and over again (not absolutely but significantly) a number of steps have been taken lately to combat them. A. la muplis which is just an search engine B. tagging tatoeba.org sentences (around 50% was completed in less than a week which means the whole task is not something unimaginable) C. So if anyone wants to implement Pimsleur for Lojban then the plan is very simple: 1. prepare a set of sentences from basic to advanced 2. two of us record them into .wav files: one voice is for sentences, another voice is for their translations to a given natlang (native speaker in that natlang needed) 3. http://people.ds.cam.ac.uk/ssb22/gradint/ Obviously in text format the same can be done too and then imported into flashcard apps available at the moment (as of 2015 those are Memrise and Anki). --001a1136cbd8894ea00517f0a5a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since "learn grammar" methods are showing t= heir failure to teach Lojban over and over again (not absolutely but signif= icantly) a number of steps have been taken lately to combat them.

A. la muplis which is just an search engine
B. ta= gging tatoeba.org sentences (around 50% = was completed in less than a week which means the whole task is not somethi= ng unimaginable)

C. So if anyone wants to implemen= t Pimsleur for Lojban then the plan is very simple:
1. prepare a = set of sentences from basic to advanced
2. two of us record them = into .wav files: one voice is for sentences, another voice is for their tra= nslations to a given natlang (native speaker in that natlang needed)
<= div>3. http://people.= ds.cam.ac.uk/ssb22/gradint/

Obviously in text = format the same can be done too and then imported into flashcard apps avail= able at the moment (as of 2015 those are Memrise and Anki).
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