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Subject: [Llg-members] 2015 Annual Meeting - Old Business
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We are now into Old Business.  Known old business topics include
A) BPFK status, goals, and reappointing (or not) the BPFK jatna
B) partly subsidiary to that is the republication of CLL, both the Robin 
edition (anyone know the current status?) and whatever the next version 
is after that.  This issue was raised with respect to the github repository.
C) the effort led nominally by Pierre to set up some sort of skills 
testing for Lojbanists
D) we've never done anything about it, but we still have the 
possibility, now authorized in the bylaws, to establish "sustaining" 
memberships (nonvoting) to gain some additional funding.  Of course, we 
need to find something worth spending the money on - nothing has been 
high enough priority so far.  (There will be some new proposals under 
New Business that could cost more money than we currently take in.)


For the first two topics, I personally would like the jatna's take on:
1) whether the PEG grammar or the YACC grammar is the official/baseline 
one right now.
2) What, if any, parser is considered official, or at least compliant 
with whatever the official grammar is.
3) As I've previously noted, it seems that what used to be the baselined 
(and thus not changing) gismu and cmavo lists have been replaced by new 
lists which include a whole lot of new stuff, possibly experimental (but 
there is no defined experimental space for gismu).  It seems that to 
some people, a large number of experimental cmavo have become part of 
their standard dialect.  Does byfy have a plan for addressing these 
proposals/changes and deciding that some are officially approved (and 
therefore need to be documented in CLL and on the BYFY cmavo pages).
4) the jatna said that there were 8 byfy members, including And.  Who 
are the others and how were/are they determined (in case someone wants 
to join)?  I know for example that I am still on the byfy list and never 
resigned.  But I also make no attempt to keep up with the business, 
which is entirely in Lojban.  Though I probably could read a single 
message if I felt it important enough, I doubt that I have the 
time/interest to keep up with the discussion.  So am I one of the 8, but 
always abstaining?
5) Does producing a published dictionary fit anywhere in the byfy plans, 
or is this an LLG project relatively independent of the byfy (the answer 
to 3) above is relevant, and I think that byfy would need to produce 
real dictionary definitions of the cmavo to at least replace those found 
in the old cmavo list - this was after all one of the original reasons 
for setting up the BPFK - because I couldn't come up with good 
definitions and the dictionary was never published as a result.)

The floor is open for discussion of these topics and/or other things 
that might be considered Old Business (discussed in previous meetings 
being the key factor).  Please use subject lines to keep things straight 
if multiple topics are being discussed.

Motions, including a motion to reappoint/confirm the jatna until the 
next meeting, and to officially ratify the byfy approval of "dotside", 
are in order.

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