Received: from localhost ([::1]:45171 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ary6P-0006C5-MB; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:49 -0700 Received: from mail-vk0-f43.google.com ([209.85.213.43]:32964) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ary6K-0006Bs-7V for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:48 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id n62so88455406vkb.0 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=fVxEHWfim7QoRsoPv4cm0w85lnaT0PlO5BkzHf54LeE=; b=QUCWIA0WAHQ93/k+SjN4JHrjsVMy9Lyg3deAkrRtJe/2LkUh7nLMsWEx2zyJTJ9hSp 4lpUMjCKRg8bbmwoEjXPBXzgRLxTnUM8vn48Fa5oJpZwtKStPlUdHESZD57u3ai6l7hp SVi28ILdOMss9jfLaBSZrB+tq649X/bEIgKccHM/a/GHGuNOJSytSNJc6THniMfRt3y0 6jhZmsn8E19G81oEd7rZilTSjMKMkwdHCehXtW8BaJst+GJTo1u43S876YgbDsCzRGtV h+aK+DBISdXQ8LwDODF/XJsua6xmLMW/3064/JxomHd/bPrAyL0yuAqEjktf7wQoSStG IWiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=fVxEHWfim7QoRsoPv4cm0w85lnaT0PlO5BkzHf54LeE=; b=XN/DV322TP3Jd9A39AiUg8qUNleSIbnz9QHqzF7moGgR38kHU7eajM+xYOf2PoD6hc 7RWGD9ir4LpP6cD/ZUQvBF1hGpHZwfI6iCY1wJBv0iMv0crQAKbgPs5eEkv1IaKzAUFw K+rtPkKWquQmOXWdl0sr5B8uqE0+8Y/Yl0a+htOnpKS6PTsCb8g44hEJSdjYyZSKb+w0 0dJ22FKiS0cJX5i5Lv/sHLZBk+20OkQ1T0YCcZta8Kh6FW2ruvsX5lDahgnBpKNBhx6y pNTLUqMrfgooFRDLPY3AywVsidOwApIDfjXAUbmLf0UijFOsyBfePgjnCBjmK1S8x5fD 7iFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUA8k4b71yC3VBl3KFUiSWUtoN+VVek0jt0lCGsmUCbw4xWzw612M8+ppuh434ACI7BNqdylYB8tDxnnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.176.7.35 with SMTP id h32mr7162412uah.17.1460943337988; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.66.226 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.66.226 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:35:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <571271C9.7050002@lojban.org> <50A08C82-B160-4ADB-B5D9-D2FBB307C32E@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 21:35:37 -0400 Message-ID: From: Curtis Franks To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Annual meeting: New Business, anyone? X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6604167834682986599==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6604167834682986599== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c123e4ab2a9340530b860ca --94eb2c123e4ab2a9340530b860ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 (See below) On Apr 17, 2016 21:31, "Craig Daniel" wrote: > > I second la .karis.'s motion, and apologize for not being immediately responsive to this thread. > > I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of town on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be any more so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby give my proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23:59 EDT on April 26. > > For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the procedural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay. > > - mi'e .kreig. > As there is some discussion taking place at the moment, I too vote against the motion to adjourn. > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, 9:20 PM Karen Stein wrote: >> >> >> >> I would like to first respond to Guskant's comments, as follows : >> >> >> >As Bob could not identify the motion among my complaints, maybe I had >> >better make clear to the secretary what to record in the minutes. I >> >herewith make a summary of the motion I raised: >> > >> >1. making a response to the open letter >> >http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/open_letter/ >> >; >> > >> >2. putting the official website under control of LLG and creating the >> >website policies; >> > >> >3. depriving Gleki of his administratorship on the official website >> >(as written in the open letter, not only the mediawiki engine but >> >also any tools on Vrici server); >> > >> >4. asserting on the official website that the official body does not >> >have any account of Twitter, or reporting the abuse of >> >official-pretending account to Twitter. >> > >> >> >> I specifically want to comment on point number 2. I fully agree with this, therefore... >> >> I move that full control over the official web pages known as the Logical Language Group Web Page be placed under the jurisdiction of the official membership of said group, also known as LLG. This body will designate who does and who does not have authority to make changes to these pages. Decisions of the Logical Language Group Board will be considered as decisions of said membership when the membership has not made such determination and the board determines that such a decision cannot wait for the next scheduled membership meeting. >> >> karis >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c123e4ab2a9340530b860ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Apr 17, 2016 21:31, "Craig Daniel" <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote: >
> I second la .karis.'s motion, and apologize for not being immediat= ely responsive to this thread.
>
> I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of = town on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be = any more so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby g= ive my proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23= :59 EDT on April 26.
>
> For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership intentio= ns, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the procedural poin= t this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay.
>
> - mi'e .kreig.
>

As there is some discussion taking place at the moment, I to= o vote against the motion to adjourn.

>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, 9:20 PM Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to first respond to Guskant's comments, as follow= s :
>>
>> <snip >
>> >As Bob could not identify the motion among my complaints, mayb= e I had
>> >better make clear to the secretary what to record in the minut= es. I
>> >herewith make a summary of the motion I raised:
>> >
>> >1. making a response to the open letter
>> >http:/= /guskant.github.io/lojbo/open_letter/
>> >;
>> >
>> >2. putting the official website under control of LLG and creat= ing the
>> >website policies;
>> >
>> >3. depriving Gleki of his administratorship on the official we= bsite
>> >(as=C2=A0 written in the open letter, not only the mediawiki e= ngine but
>> >also any tools on Vrici server);
>> >
>> >4. asserting on the official website that the official body do= es not
>> >have any account of Twitter, or reporting the abuse of
>> >official-pretending account to Twitter.
>> >
>> <snip>
>>
>> I specifically want to comment on point number 2. I fully agree wi= th this, therefore...
>>
>> I move that full control over the official web pages known as the = Logical Language Group Web Page be placed under the jurisdiction of the off= icial membership of said group, also known as LLG. This body will designate= who does and who does not have authority to make changes to these pages. D= ecisions of the Logical Language Group Board will be considered as decision= s of said membership when the membership has not made such determination an= d the board determines that such a decision cannot wait for the next schedu= led membership meeting.
>>
>> karis
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Llg-members mailing list
>> Llg-members@lojban.org
>> ht= tp://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members
>
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