Received: from localhost ([::1]:53639 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1b0N7u-0007G0-Qh; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:56:06 -0700 Received: from mail-ig0-f177.google.com ([209.85.213.177]:38282) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1b0N7n-0007FW-V8 for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:56:04 -0700 Received: by mail-ig0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m9so27355730ige.1 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:55:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xQXLJMU9B/29t8VKR9HPD5hcUlFhM9JfuSi5vnhi668=; b=o8ycmaa0h53NGwPejM94OJjM/dTDQZK3mel0pZNKF6VNaQ5EGgzyPHVHdXKHWMZLgl cHK8nJG70OQMS4lsaEyCdQW5y2EsPzpq5B5kT071vIazh/HytccZOfC3I7Z0axC47JeN SN56OqeHBhXHnCxlYkWdiNcI2G+R0OCFO/fTgr6uKHogguIc0MOKEs76+0kakcVdu7L6 97V2KWN5S8M+Sfqm/WbsgZPyawWwOkl1XJuIIatrbWJ8ljxnaeOTzdttDZq/LvZKzsGW /XXS14FAfs8r4r9rpyXj8fUvXrOhqgHYfs1ozdmYVKIZsVAbaP0aB9R/P5LGoVt8WJ9W QbgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xQXLJMU9B/29t8VKR9HPD5hcUlFhM9JfuSi5vnhi668=; b=ZeDaKicnlvsvnJYw1eBsCbFMw3XzTWk+zaE/h64FHJBv33YVIlkheNRDo6Wu311VAh SN21p34fL227hq2VEY7jnY1XMSU6s2Qzxu2Wnvn6BzApDNCukmQnVeru1bYxsBZGFUPk Ki3WCuyjVAZ8QyD1kiclxIQZFllR1bK+rx199fpf5iWXatLCeerqRdPq6Klx3JrPduDA e+pT/yKjPv8+S0duGUKphwcHNtONl5OVvxE5hZA0i78zTWxxCUyZD2nCqg59FnlWtVDc TimADeJSghjRt1oulOm8mKRIJz3eTnbwfXBcT2hIWT+ij79OHt7WRY4jcCp3mihKRIWR 1ltQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVJbD6eAWr3F1gedveG4/gQ2/AqTAL7fVXd3bx6E4zSye2n2lgm/qXQwX5eG5TqBAdccG2/Aqjhojf9xA== X-Received: by 10.50.18.132 with SMTP id w4mr1794435igd.83.1462946153987; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:55:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.25.68 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:55:34 -0700 (PDT) From: guskant Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 05:55:34 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: [Llg-members] Violation of copyright X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4839962909728130863==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============4839962909728130863== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b57d2d5837a05328ab18a --14dae93b57d2d5837a05328ab18a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I received a demand from a Japanese professional artist ( https://twitter.com/tyo_md ) for removing one of her artworks from the header image of a Russian Lojban group: http://vk.com/menli.bangu (archive of the current state: http://archive.is/WhoYP ) She said she had never been asked for the permission of use of the picture for that group. The artist is professional and the artworks are not copylefted. Usually, anyone who wants to use her artworks must consult her, and must even pay for that in many cases. That picture was originally donated to Cogas, one of the most active Lojbanists in Japan, for one of his twitter accounts https://twitter.com/lojytan_bot for the friendship between Cogas and the artist. Cogas was not informed of use of the picture for the Russian Lojban group either. The picture was therfore stolen by the Russian Lojban group, and the copyright holder has not been aware of it for a long time. I herewith consult all members of LLG about this problem because the Russian Lojban group in question is recommended on the Russian top page of the official website of Lojban: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C!/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9 (archive of the current state: http://archive.is/agRrY ) Even though the top page of the official website is not tagged with "official contents", visitors of the Lojban top page might believe that LLG supports the violation of copyright of an artist for the Russian Lojban group. I recommend immediately removing the picture from the group page. I guess Gleki can take responsibility for that. mi'e la guskant --14dae93b57d2d5837a05328ab18a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I received a demand from a Japanese professional arti= st (
)
for removing one of her artworks from the h= eader image of a Russian Lojban group:
(archive of the current= state: http://archive.is/WhoYP )

She said she had never been asked for the permissio= n of use of the picture for that group. The artist is professional and the = artworks are not copylefted. Usually, anyone who wants to use her artworks = must consult her, and must even pay for that in many cases. That picture wa= s originally donated to Cogas, one of the most active Lojbanists in Japan, = for one of his twitter accounts
for the friendship= between Cogas and the artist. Cogas was not informed of use of the picture= for the Russian Lojban group either. The picture was therfore stolen by th= e Russian Lojban group, and the copyright holder has not been aware of it f= or a long time.

I herewith consult all members of = LLG about this problem because the Russian Lojban group in question is reco= mmended on the Russian top page of the official website of Lojban:
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B1%= D1%80%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C!/%= D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9
(archive of the cur= rent state: http://archive.is/agRrY= )

Even though the top page of the official websit= e is not tagged with "official contents", visitors of the Lojban = top page might believe that LLG supports the violation of copyright of an a= rtist for the Russian Lojban group.

I recommend im= mediately removing the picture from the group page. I guess Gleki can take = responsibility for that.

mi'e la guskant
=

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