Received: from localhost ([::1]:38466 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3vA-0006mN-Ir; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:07:00 -0800 Received: from 173-13-139-235-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.13.139.235]:58841 helo=jukni.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3v7-0006mH-B6 for wikichanges@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:06:58 -0800 Received: from jukni.digitalkingdom.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jukni.digitalkingdom.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAPM6uuZ026252 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:06:56 -0800 Received: (from apache@localhost) by jukni.digitalkingdom.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pAPM6tYI026251; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:06:55 -0800 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:06:55 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: jukni.digitalkingdom.org: apache set sender to webmaster@lojban.org using -f To: wikichanges@lojban.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 48:htmlMimeMail.php MIME-Version: 1.0 From: webmaster@lojban.org Message-ID: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam_score: 1.0 X-Spam_score_int: 10 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The page Internal grammar of numbers was changed by purpleposeidon at 14:06 PST Comment: Changed formatting You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Internal%20grammar%20of%20numbers [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.6 TO_NO_BRKTS_DYNIP To: misformatted and dynamic rDNS Subject: [Wikichanges] Wiki page Internal grammar of numbers changed by purpleposeidon X-BeenThere: wikichanges@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: wikichanges-bounces@lojban.org The page Internal grammar of numbers was changed by purpleposeidon at 14:06 PST Comment: Changed formatting You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Internal%20grammar%20of%20numbers You can view a diff back to the previous version by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Internal%20grammar%20of%20numbers&compare=1&oldver=3&newver=4 *********************************************************** The changes in this version follow below, followed after by the current full page text. *********************************************************** +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ @@ -Lines: 15-36 changed to +Lines: 15-35 @@ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ This is clearly incomplete, but it can serve as a starting point: - = (ji'i|su'e|su'o|me'i|za'u|da'a)... + {CODE(wrap="1",ishtml="0")}
<pre-sign> = (ji'i|su'e|su'o|me'i|za'u|da'a)... - = ma'u|ni'u + <sign> = ma'u|ni'u - = no|pa|re|ci|vo|mu|xa|ze|bi|so|dau|fei|gai|jau|rei|vai|ki'o|xo + <digit> = no|pa|re|ci|vo|mu|xa|ze|bi|so|dau|fei|gai|jau|rei|vai|ki'o|xo - = [[][[](ci'i|pai|te'o|[[...][[pi [[...][[ra'e ...]]) + <real> = [[<pre-sign>][[<sign>](ci'i|pai|te'o|[[<digit>...][[pi [[<digit>...][[ra'e <digit>...]]) - = [[][[ka'o ] + <complex> = [[<real>][[ka'o <real>] - = [[][[pi'e ]... + <n-tuple> = [[<complex>][[pi'e <complex>]... - = [[][[fi'u ] + <fraction> = [[<real>][[fi'u <real>] - = ro|so'a|so'e|so'i|so'o|so'u|no'o|rau|du'e|mo'a

= tu'o | [[pi][[][[] | [[ce'i] |

----- + <indef> = ro|so'a|so'e|so'i|so'o|so'u|no'o|rau|du'e|mo'a + = tu'o | [[pi][[][[] | [[ce'i] | + {CODE} *********************************************************** The new page content follows below. *********************************************************** It is clear that there exists an internal grammar of numbers in Lojban, even though it has not been fully worked out or made explicit. For example ''su'o re ci'' has to be understood as ''su'o(reci)'' and not as ''(su'ore)ci''. ''re ci ce'i'' has to be understood as ''(reci)ce'i'' and not as ''re(cice'i)'', so the rule is nothing as simple as left or right grouping. In fact the digits are usually joined the tightest, which is why I don't like making ''ji'i'' an exceptionally tight digit modifier. It is hard enough that we have to make out the value of each digit just from its position. Adding ''ji'i'' in the middle makes this harder by creating interference and breaking the three-digit groupings that we have to use to get the value of each one right. This is clearly incomplete, but it can serve as a starting point: {CODE(wrap="1",ishtml="0")} = (ji'i|su'e|su'o|me'i|za'u|da'a)... = ma'u|ni'u = no|pa|re|ci|vo|mu|xa|ze|bi|so|dau|fei|gai|jau|rei|vai|ki'o|xo = [[][[](ci'i|pai|te'o|[[...][[pi [[...][[ra'e ...]]) = [[][[ka'o ] = [[][[pi'e ]... = [[][[fi'u ] = ro|so'a|so'e|so'i|so'o|so'u|no'o|rau|du'e|mo'a = tu'o | [[pi][[][[] | [[ce'i] | {CODE} _______________________________________________ Wikichanges mailing list Wikichanges@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/wikichanges