Received: from localhost ([::1]:44817 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TmqfD-0004u5-4p; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:52:43 -0800 Received: from 173-13-139-235-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.13.139.235]:50036 helo=digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmqf1-0004tw-OF for wikichanges@lojban.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:52:40 -0800 Received: by digitalkingdom.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:52:31 -0800 From: "Apache" Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:52:31 -0800 To: wikichanges@lojban.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 48:htmlMimeMail.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam_score: 2.0 X-Spam_score_int: 20 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The page Anglan was changed by zort at 13:52 EST Comment: Added examples from throughout the ages. You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Anglan [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT [173.13.139.235 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS Subject: [Wikichanges] Wiki page Anglan changed by zort X-BeenThere: wikichanges@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: wikichanges-bounces@lojban.org The page Anglan was changed by zort at 13:52 EST Comment: Added examples from throughout the ages. You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Anglan You can view a diff back to the previous version by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Anglan&compare=1&oldver=3&newver=4 *********************************************************** The changes in this version follow below, followed after by the current full page text. *********************************************************** +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ @@ -Lines: 1-4 changed to +Lines: 1-8 @@ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ - A proposed reform of Lojban that keeps surfacing from different people at different times under different names. Its core is "Why not base the gismu on just one language [[which turns out in practice to be English] so people can learn them more easily?" + A proposed reform of Lojban that keeps surfacing from different people at different times under different names. Its core is "Why not base the gismu on just one language [[which turns out in practice to be English] so people can learn them more easily?" - The classic rebuttal is "Using English words imports the semantics of English, which doesn't match Lojban ((place structure)) semantics." + The classic rebuttal is "Using English words imports the semantics of English, which doesn't match Lojban ((place structure)) semantics." + Here are some examples: + * [http://www.lojban.org/files/why-lojban/whylojb.txt] (search "Jeffrey Kegler"), 1988 + * [http://www.goertzel.org/new_research/Loglish.htm] (discussed on the mailing list [http://mail.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg10286.html|here]), 2005 + * [http://mail.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg36242.html], 2012 *********************************************************** The new page content follows below. *********************************************************** A proposed reform of Lojban that keeps surfacing from different people at different times under different names. Its core is "Why not base the gismu on just one language [[which turns out in practice to be English] so people can learn them more easily?" The classic rebuttal is "Using English words imports the semantics of English, which doesn't match Lojban ((place structure)) semantics." Here are some examples: * [http://www.lojban.org/files/why-lojban/whylojb.txt] (search "Jeffrey Kegler"), 1988 * [http://www.goertzel.org/new_research/Loglish.htm] (discussed on the mailing list [http://mail.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg10286.html|here]), 2005 * [http://mail.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list/msg36242.html], 2012 _______________________________________________ Wikichanges mailing list Wikichanges@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/wikichanges