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Content preview: The page CLL Beginner's Order was changed by Jacob at 03:37 UTC Comment: Added some details and a link to the IRC page You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/CLL%20Beginner%27s%20Order [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.6 TO_NO_BRKTS_DYNIP To: misformatted and dynamic rDNS Subject: [Wikineurotic] Wiki page CLL Beginner's Order changed by Jacob X-BeenThere: wikineurotic@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: wikineurotic-bounces@lojban.org The page CLL Beginner's Order was changed by Jacob at 03:37 UTC Comment: Added some details and a link to the IRC page You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/CLL%20Beginner%27s%20Order You can view a diff back to the previous version by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=CLL%20Beginner%27s%20Order&compare=1&oldver=3&newver=4 *********************************************************** The changes in this version follow below, followed after by the current full page text. *********************************************************** +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ @@ -Lines: 25-26 changed to +Lines: 25-28 @@ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * ''Useful'' [http://dag.github.com/cll/20/1/|Chapter 20] (selma'o liste) * ''Not for the eyes of all'' [http://dag.github.com/cll/21/1/|Chapter 21] (Formal grammars) + + Points containing the mention ''beware'' or ''difficult'' should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on ((Lojban IRC|Lojban's IRC)) will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype. *********************************************************** The new page content follows below. *********************************************************** The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, ''the'' comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles: * [http://dag.github.com/cll/1/1/|Chapter 1] (Legal stuff, skippable) * [http://dag.github.com/cll/2/1/|Chapter 2] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/3/1/|Chapter 3] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/4/1/|Chapter 4] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/13/1/|Chapter 13.1-13.10] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/6/1/|Chapter 6] (beware of 6.12 (dotside), and 6.2-6.9 (xorlo)) * [http://dag.github.com/cll/7/1/|Chapter 7] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/5/1/|Chapter 5.1-5.7] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/17/1/|Chapter 17.1-17.12] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/19/1/|Chapter 19] (beware of 19.13 (erasure)) * [http://dag.github.com/cll/13/11/|Chapter 13.11-13.16] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/11/1/|Chapter 11] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/8/1/|Chapter 8] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/9/1/|Chapter 9] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/10/1/|Chapter 10] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/14/1/|Chapter 14] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/15/1/|Chapter 15] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/5/10/|Chapter 5.10-5.20] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/12/1/|Chapter 12] * [http://dag.github.com/cll/16/1/|Chapter 16] (Logical quantifiers, difficult material) * [http://dag.github.com/cll/17/13/|Chapter 17.13-17.20] * ''Not at all necessary'' [http://dag.github.com/cll/18/1/|Chapter 18] (mekso - may be dropped from the language) * ''Useful'' [http://dag.github.com/cll/20/1/|Chapter 20] (selma'o liste) * ''Not for the eyes of all'' [http://dag.github.com/cll/21/1/|Chapter 21] (Formal grammars) Points containing the mention ''beware'' or ''difficult'' should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on ((Lojban IRC|Lojban's IRC)) will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype. _______________________________________________ Wikineurotic mailing list Wikineurotic@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/wikineurotic