Received: from localhost ([::1]:53420 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TnztF-000523-RE; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:55:57 -0800 Received: from 173-13-139-235-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.13.139.235]:59304 helo=digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnzt7-00051p-Ih for wikineurotic@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:55:56 -0800 Received: by digitalkingdom.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:55:49 -0800 From: "Apache" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:55:49 -0800 To: wikineurotic@lojban.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 48:htmlMimeMail.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam_score: 2.0 X-Spam_score_int: 20 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The page gismu != primitives was changed by zort at 17:55 EST Comment: Removed natter and fixed link. You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/gismu%20%21%3D%20primitives [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT [173.13.139.235 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS Subject: [Wikineurotic] Wiki page gismu != primitives changed by zort X-BeenThere: wikineurotic@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: wikineurotic-bounces@lojban.org The page gismu != primitives was changed by zort at 17:55 EST Comment: Removed natter and fixed link. You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/gismu%20%21%3D%20primitives You can view a diff back to the previous version by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=gismu%20%21%3D%20primitives&compare=1&oldver=1&newver=2 *********************************************************** The changes in this version follow below, followed after by the current full page text. *********************************************************** +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ @@ -Lines: 1-6 changed to +Lines: 1-4 @@ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ - This represents one of the classic Lojban fallacies, and even ((JCB)) believed it for a time. + This represents one of the classic Lojban fallacies, and even ((James Cooke Brown|JCB)) believed it for a time. - There is nothing inherently "primitive" about most of the gismu, nor are they intended to be so. As an obvious example, ''nanmu'' means "male adult human", and could have been represented as "nakni je makcu je remna". But it isn't, because it is a sufficiently high-frequency concept that assigning a ((gismu)) for it made sense even in the ((Elder Days)).

''Actually, there's no implication of "adult" in nanmu. ((Misleading gismu keywords|Keywords Considered Harmful)).'' + There is nothing inherently "primitive" about most of the gismu, nor are they intended to be so. As an obvious example, ''nanmu'' means "male human", and could have been represented as "nakni je remna". But it isn't, because it is a sufficiently high-frequency concept that assigning a ((gismu)) for it made sense even in the ((Elder Days)). *********************************************************** The new page content follows below. *********************************************************** This represents one of the classic Lojban fallacies, and even ((James Cooke Brown|JCB)) believed it for a time. There is nothing inherently "primitive" about most of the gismu, nor are they intended to be so. As an obvious example, ''nanmu'' means "male human", and could have been represented as "nakni je remna". But it isn't, because it is a sufficiently high-frequency concept that assigning a ((gismu)) for it made sense even in the ((Elder Days)). _______________________________________________ Wikineurotic mailing list Wikineurotic@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/wikineurotic