Received: from localhost ([::1]:54755 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqo9D-00056Z-3K; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:36:51 -0700 Received: from 173-13-139-235-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.13.139.235]:49011 helo=jukni.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqo92-00056S-6X for wikineurotic@lojban.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:36:48 -0700 Received: by jukni.digitalkingdom.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 31 May 2014 11:36:40 -0700 From: "Apache" Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:36:40 -0700 To: wikineurotic@lojban.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 48:htmlMimeMail.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam_score: 2.0 X-Spam_score_int: 20 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The page BPFK Section: Numeric Tense was changed by selpa'i at 18:36 UTC You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK%20Section%3A%20Numeric%20Tense [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT [173.13.139.235 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS Subject: [Wikineurotic] Wiki page BPFK Section: Numeric Tense changed by selpa'i X-BeenThere: wikineurotic@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: wikineurotic-bounces@lojban.org The page BPFK Section: Numeric Tense was changed by selpa'i at 18:36 UTC You can view the page by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK%20Section%3A%20Numeric%20Tense You can view a diff back to the previous version by following this link: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=BPFK%20Section%3A%20Numeric%20Tense&compare=1&oldver=19&newver=20 *********************************************************** The changes in this version follow below, followed after by the current full page text. *********************************************************** +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ @@ -Lines: 6-11 changed to +Lines: 6-10 @@ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ !!! Proposed Tag -
+ fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li ''number'' !!! See Also * {roi} *********************************************************** The new page content follows below. *********************************************************** {BOX()} !! cmavo: re'u (ROI) !!! Proposed Definition Ordinal tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified ordinal tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place for the ''n''-th time. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur. !!! Proposed Tag fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li ''number'' !!! See Also * {roi} !!! Proposed Keywords * for the nth time. !!! Usage Examples ;.i mi re re'u troci lo ka co'a sipna:''For the second time, I try to fall asleep.'' ;.a'o do pu zi ro re'u darxi lo mensi be do:''I hope this was the last time you hit your sister.'' ;mi pa re'u lo mi nunji'e cu prane lo ka gleki:''For the first time in my life I am perfectly happy.'' !!! Notes * http://nuzban.wiw.org/archive/9612/msg00006.html ** Summary: re'u is semantically related to the ZAhO series, in that it specifies a phase of the event. (This discussion is suggestive of calling re'u an ''aspect'', and not a tense.) * ((re'u)) (Lojban wiki page) ** Summary: za'u re'u means "not for the first time", so it could be used for some senses of "again". !!! Issues {BOX} {BOX()} !! cmavo: roi (ROI) !!! Proposed Definition Quantified tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place ''n'' times. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur. !!! Proposed Tag ca ''number'' da poi ke'a cabna ''sumti'' !!! See Also * {re'u} !!! Proposed Keywords * times * n times !!! Usage Examples ;mi so'i roi citka lo xarju rectu:''I eat pork many times.'' ;mi no roi tcidu fi lo nuzykarni:''I never read newspapers.'' ;mi curmi lo nu do pilno lo skami pa roi ro zeldei:''I allow you to use the computer once each Sunday.'' !!! Notes * http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/msg00218.html ** Summary: ROI is a sumti tcita, too. The sumti specifies which time interval the repetitions occur. ** [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/cd0dec4182f0cb86|Here, Robin agrees.] !!! Issues {BOX} !! General Section Issues By convention, tagged sumti without quantification (the new definition of lo dispenses with the notion of implicit quantification) are taken to refer to single instances. E.g. ''mu roi lo cacra'' is taken to mean "five times per hour". The meaning of tagged sumti with ROI, previously undescribed, has been explicitly laid out. !! mi djica lo panre be zo si'e poi srana lo temci .i zo roi cu te kancu gi'e nai parbi .i mi djica lo nu cusku le parbi da poi gasnu vau le srana temci _______________________________________________ Wikineurotic mailing list Wikineurotic@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/wikineurotic