Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O5554-0002sv-LO; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:41:23 -0700 Received: by wwb29 with SMTP id 29sf63682wwb.16 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:41:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:from:in-reply-to :mime-version:references:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N5pVvh2C2q0ZcY/yjUx85cyYXE/bfOU5Fs/rhE/Vp4s=; b=1NWgMCNhbyGg/4otvRT1x/c7dwBCNTbZmWX0niSifLnTpqY6nx5r650hjtWaPwpIWg 9cxAqdZdpjS0etVM0G3CFfb7H+A+Z7/QrF7btQ7ETyHGPo8t09VuuWhnXGYGqHgQcusb LcMVHI/hVpBSPiJnjXRdCExQquIhS2pPRzswM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:references :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=wc1G7YcrQieete6g7mrzSO9CPk7zdBDq/wJOWpRUvhyU3adZ8ChQuHtZtcm2ldaolp PkuX5QEClnndYuzzFVW+4eZYNk5eYcj2cjAZAhzodnFuuGV0fCWj914zJeZ6r91YSxBq F9J2Az9nzsjLWEc6z2ag60qkIhFzqYQRddEns= Received: by 10.223.4.202 with SMTP id 10mr18798fas.47.1271976062188; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.87.74.30 with SMTP id b30ls4881667fgl.3.p; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.72.12 with SMTP id z12mr173006fgk.19.1271976061632; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.140.13 with SMTP id g13mr443338bku.0.1271772082263; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.140.13 with SMTP id g13mr443337bku.0.1271772082197; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f212.google.com (mail-bw0-f212.google.com [209.85.218.212]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si1086389bwz.12.2010.04.20.07.01.21; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.212 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.218.212; Received: by mail-bw0-f212.google.com with SMTP id 4so4703600bwz.38 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Brockman In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) References: <201004191216.45928.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201004192225.18850.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:01:23 +0200 Received: by 10.204.11.22 with SMTP id r22mr6123427bkr.120.1271772080866; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <-2846130624798025306@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: [bpfk] Proposed grammar change: BIhI with only one GAhO To: "bpfk-list@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.212 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255585b21d872f0484ab8396 Content-Length: 7556 --0003255585b21d872f0484ab8396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I fully support Jorge=92s campaign. We don=92t need a bunch of crufty old grammar rules for obscure words that nobody neither uses nor remembers when simple well-understood selma=92o already work well for the purpose. On 20 apr 2010, at 15.56, Jonathan Jones wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 14:13:19 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I have no idea what you're talking about, but I like simplicity, and I > can > > understand what xorxes is talking about, so I vote "abstain". > > I haven't called for a vote yet ;) > > The selma'o BIhI consists of three words: bi'i (between), bi'o (from ... > to ...), and mi'i (within ... of ..., in reverse order). They are > conjunctions, not prepositions like the English words. All three can be > optionally modified by the words "ga'o" and "ke'i", which indicate whethe= r > the ends of the interval are or are not included in the interval. > > Currently, if GAhO is used with BIhI, there must be two, one on each side= . > This is okay when the intervals are one-dimensional, but a > two-dimensional "interval" of the mi'i sort is a disk centered on the > referent of the first sumti. It is possible, and common in complex > analysis, > for the boundary of a disk to be all closed except for one point, and it > can > even be riddled with holes while not being completely open. > > Okay, I understand now, and can see the problem. I believe your suggestio= n is a sensible change. Still the the "move it to UI" idea. > Pierre > > -- > When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. > J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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I fully support Jorge=92s campaign. We= don=92t need a bunch of crufty old grammar rules for obscure words that no= body neither uses nor remembers when simple well-understood selma=92o alrea= dy work well for the purpose.


On 20 apr 2010, at 15.56, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, A= pr 19, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus= .nu> wrote:
On Monday 19 April 2010 14:13:19 Jonathan Jones wrote: > I have no idea what you're talking about, but I like simplicity, a= nd I can
> understand what xorxes is talking about, so I vote "abstain"= .

I haven't called for a vote yet ;)

The selma'o BIhI consists of three words: bi'i (between), bi'o = (from ...
to ...), and mi'i (within ... of ..., in reverse order). They are
conjunctions, not prepositions like the English words. All three can be
optionally modified by the words "ga'o" and "ke'i&qu= ot;, which indicate whether
the ends of the interval are or are not included in the interval.

Currently, if GAhO is used with BIhI, there must be two, one on each side.<= br> This is okay when the intervals are one-dimensional, but a
two-dimensional "interval" of the mi'i sort is a disk centere= d on the
referent of the first sumti. It is possible, and common in complex analysis= ,
for the boundary of a disk to be all closed except for one point, and it ca= n
even be riddled with holes while not being completely open.

Okay, I understand now, and c= an see the problem. I believe your suggestion is a sensible change. Still t= he the "move it to UI" idea.
=A0
Pierre

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J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.

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