Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OvV4k-0006ih-0b; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:49 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf1346991wyb.16 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5A6SrcqSqSVPaTtz7i9kJVtQJnVCRpvby0GMKmMTaqw=; b=lMAbqGeI5ABluFL8XeQsAnQlSrJOwUut72eDK3W2IQGPaDYowzfNQfTOVrusgQBrhd yyqrMEH3V6aAVgn4V9BENVbMLSkE5Axnq/kd+2Va3l+k3THc5YlhBlHjvDv4/c0OwP/W q2QNPOrkostL8cO3yA1L0LY8m6ttWZhWM+75A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=jjZA05J+J5+a3Df2hLoYOkZrB/4FLOQIm8071p3b2TAEfUzbo6ol+97FhuM8vmbn5F AMGlCURD2ABE7fjJ5BkIqGQn1t5AfMKELGxaBMUTETNy649/7itkBGytZ3Yl3kzdirDA 8XRYkKJE4AWdLMXc+PP9stj2n5x9FF9+6702I= Received: by 10.216.145.9 with SMTP id o9mr764131wej.0.1284469037731; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.139.159 with SMTP id e31ls4033550wbu.0.p; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.127.146 with SMTP id g18mr282127wbs.10.1284469037045; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.127.146 with SMTP id g18mr282126wbs.10.1284469036993; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com (mail-wy0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si53195wbs.5.2010.09.14.05.57.15; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.169; Received: by mail-wy0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 36so8044730wyb.28 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.149 with SMTP id h21mr81737wbv.153.1284469035357; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.151.203 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:57:15 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] The Case for UI. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1194 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Lindar wrote: > The Case for UI. > (or ".AI KARAMBA") My initial reaction: 1- If you want to express an explicitly emotional attitude, you can always add the modifier "ro'i" to an attitudinal. Most attitudinals, even those of VV form, are not about expressing pure emotion. 2- Uttering a proposition is not equivalent to asserting it. Expressing an attitude about a proposition is not "changing" the proposition. For some weird reason, many people are convinced that the only use propositions have is for making assertions. It isn't. It is something of the default use, but nowhere near the only use. If you want to be explicit that you are making an assertion, you can indicate that with "ju'a". 3- We should definitely assign some meaning to the gismu "ramba". Any suggestions? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.