Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwLgp-0003zF-4t; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:34 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf1586567gwb.16 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RTIwnCU2CzOFsRReFsSapvGsgiT01Pcj3Xn/dEgIgF0=; b=hJ1CK12AxigZCSBgHMxr5afv9X8u8Kr2yBx/p18VBqFqO8Cnc/hqUHM0W4FVUbBUVW Fmv73BLleZOF5pWi/oTN3VCQ6/NcXMoLU0DDD56S+yA7jW0jH8cvL6J81IdQsUIcF4c9 uLpbAQ+dcFm8nhBO89m9fADcOLeI/yWuqokwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2xrjDiC0Vw0lU1PVuQ3FDUUFHKAKNIR7bu0NYPMSLTlXDaJjO6FjbYK3At0l/CUG4d n6QNetEIEZUagtySFSIkJjRsxfMsYzst/4DLbuy0YB/moxr9xYIyFshuSf31dbxO39Kp zaFbuNVV69xJwqWFhhftwKgTURSA+wUifGaR0= Received: by 10.91.196.10 with SMTP id y10mr583532agp.37.1284671286796; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.193.98 with SMTP id dt34ls960065ibb.0.p; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr554394ibb.5.1284671286158; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr554393ibb.5.1284671286120; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f175.google.com (mail-iw0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z37si1022404ibq.4.2010.09.16.14.08.05; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; Received: by mail-iw0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 2so1338390iwn.6 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.202 with SMTP id q10mr3909095ibd.138.1284671284940; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.207.84 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:08:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2de88d23-c009-41e9-bb9c-86d1425b1b64@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <95a4594d-52a3-4449-a81d-45eac37876ae@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:08:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: The Case for UI. From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255730b2979150049066d72c Content-Length: 2635 --0003255730b2979150049066d72c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Brockman wrote: > >> No, using a Lojban word in English, as in "I really nelci that tie.", > not > >> using english in Lojban. > > > > Ah, no. It was meant to be a pun. > > There is an actual phrase "Ay caramba!" in Spanish. > > I can't attest to its modern-ness, but it's a real phrase. > > I think what Jonathan is saying is that he read ".AI KARAMBA" as > the use of a Lojban word ({.ai}) in an English phrase ("Ay caramba", > which happens to be a Spanish loan-phrase). > .i.iecai go'i -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en. --0003255730b2979150049066d72c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Daniel = Brockman <daniel= @brockman.se> wrote:
>> No, using a Lojban word in English, as in "= I really nelci that tie.", not
>> using english in Lojban.
>
> Ah, no. It was meant to be a pun.
> There is an actual phrase "Ay caramba!" in Spanish.
> I can't attest to its modern-ness, but it's a real phrase.

I think what Jonathan is saying is that he read ".AI KARAMBA&quo= t; as
the use of a Lojban word ({.ai}) in an English phrase ("Ay caramba&quo= t;,
which happens to be a Spanish loan-phrase).

.i.ie= cai go'i

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

= .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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