Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ot3Un-0007kY-Ob; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:22 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf1393126wyb.16 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=h0aJLpUc/wXdJrtzczeG+0whX33DoumyXvxA9D0IAX8=; b=dJKGATOBw75l0wRSnb33sNLUocKssRTNLohlIkULZmbRqeFhxnPSn4innImbU96Czg EAQYi2SYd9GFg05g84/6W9XTLhRxjBJvGJ8Av5NFuqR7Z0Jk78gjMhG4V5J99fiHdfyw eN8+sGLNB+nL7J0dnKTGj2+lIme052SOwnaPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=DPSU8l3k6QyOBnayLbx8A/sCPAr82/bF6j0p0R7T3xNu8eH2Nm+llBhY7SehctR+Pc cvQS0KjejN0NArUATAHpz+rJb+pn+2ZTM/RKL5AwSESGsJAzhxjlsJ//F7YXMF1uODL/ ommsqKIb+V91ZWcFw6mMvwPNfpg+mVtwLlbA0= Received: by 10.216.144.38 with SMTP id m38mr945401wej.14.1283886366091; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.82.133 with SMTP id b5ls1740325wbl.3.p; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.20.3 with SMTP id o3mr353243weo.2.1283886365300; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.20.3 with SMTP id o3mr353242weo.2.1283886365254; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s70si2374994weq.5.2010.09.07.12.06.04; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.173; Received: by mail-wy0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 39so6091094wyb.32 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.236.149 with SMTP id w21mr2304615weq.65.1283886364057; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.46.4 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100903032539.GY5990@digitalkingdom.org> <20100907184815.GV5990@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:06:03 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4024aa9608f048fb0165a Content-Length: 6025 --000e0cd4024aa9608f048fb0165a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any web designers in the house care to pipe up at this point? 2010/9/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:42:11AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > >> If the standard format is needed for > >> some technical reason, > > > > It probably will be, but not soon. If you have a suggestion for a > > format that will display the same information in a way that doesn't > > annoy you, *please* feel free to share. > > I think we already discussed this, but anyway: > > The standard format is so cluttered that I find the pages with that > format just unreadable. I have no idea if anyone else besides me uses > these BPFK pages as reference material, I only use the UI pages for > reference, because that's the only selma'o which I know has some > useful cmavo that I don't always remember. All the other selma'o I > either already know by heart, or I already decided is useless, so I > don't really need to visit, but the UI pages I do need. > > The standard format is painful because it is mostly repetitive titles > and the actual content is strategically hidden from view. Instead of > highlighting the cmavo you are looking for, it highlights all the > irrelevant wordage. > > Unfortunately, I'm not very good at designing. I can tell you that the > design is awful, but I can't really help with concrete suggestions so > that the resulting format is useful both to humans and computers. I > just complain crankily from time to time in the hopes that somehow it > will get better. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. 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2010/9/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.= org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:42:11AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
>> If the standard format is needed for
>> some technical reason,
>
> It probably will be, but not soon. =A0If you have a suggestion for a > format that will display the same information in a way that doesn'= t
> annoy you, *please* feel free to share.

I think we already discussed this, but anyway:

The standard format is so cluttered that I find the pages with that
format just unreadable. I have no idea if anyone else besides me uses
these BPFK pages as reference material, I only use the UI pages for
reference, because that's the only selma'o which I know has some useful cmavo that I don't always remember. All the other selma'o I<= br> either already know by heart, or I already decided is useless, so I
don't really need to visit, but the UI pages I do need.

The standard format is painful because it is mostly repetitive titles
and the actual content is strategically hidden from view. Instead of
highlighting the cmavo you are looking for, it highlights all the
irrelevant wordage.

Unfortunately, I'm not very good at designing. I can tell you that the<= br> design is awful, but I can't really help with concrete suggestions so that the resulting format is useful both to humans and computers. I
just complain crankily from time to time in the hopes that somehow it
will get better.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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