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2010/10/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Daniel Brockman <dbrockman@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> If it's an existing selma'o, then either UI or BAhE are the best
> choices, I think. Even they will fail if the first speaker ends with ZO o=
r
> ZEI though, because you wouldn't be able to complete with what you really
> want to complete. You would need to use some additional trick with SI.
> >
> > I honestly don't understand what you are talking about here.
>
> A: la'e di'u smuni zo ...
> B: ?
>
> What does B say? Suppose B wants to complete A's sentence with
> "blablabla". Suppose the "continue preceding speaker's utterance"
> cmavo is "di'ai". So:
>
> B: di'ai blablabla
>
> Now the full text is "la'e di'u smuni zo di'ai blablabla". But that's
> not what B wanted. So B has to say:
>
> B: di'ai si zo blablabla
>
> which gives "la'e di'u smuni zo di'ai si zo blablabla".
>
> Since "si" will delete "zo di'ai", then B gets what they wanted.
> That's what I meant by a trick with SI.
>
> But I now realise there's a problem with that too. What if B said
> "di'ai" by mistake, and he wanted to delete it? Now B's text will be
> construed as continuing A's, and B has no way out of it. I suppose B
> has to resort to "fa'o" then to get out of A's text.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>

I thought the working of the "continue jufra" cmavo was that it would be
removed from the result, so that

A: la'e di'u smuni zo
B: di'ai blablabla

becomes

la'edi'u smuni zo blablabla

If di'ai deletes itself, the problem would be keeping it from doing so, not
what you're describing.

--=20
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d=
o
zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/10/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Daniel Brockman &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dbrockman@gmail.com">dbrockman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; If it&#39;s an existing selma&#39;o, then either UI or BAhE are th=
e best choices, I think. Even they will fail if the first speaker ends with=
 ZO or ZEI though, because you wouldn&#39;t be able to complete with what y=
ou really want to complete. You would need to use some additional trick wit=
h SI.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; I honestly don&#39;t understand what you are talking about here.<br>
<br>
</div>A: la&#39;e di&#39;u smuni zo ...<br>
B: ?<br>
<br>
What does B say? Suppose B wants to complete A&#39;s sentence with<br>
&quot;blablabla&quot;. Suppose the &quot;continue preceding speaker&#39;s u=
tterance&quot;<br>
cmavo is &quot;di&#39;ai&quot;. So:<br>
<br>
B: di&#39;ai blablabla<br>
<br>
Now the full text is &quot;la&#39;e di&#39;u smuni zo di&#39;ai blablabla&q=
uot;. But that&#39;s<br>
not what B wanted. So B has to say:<br>
<br>
B: di&#39;ai si zo blablabla<br>
<br>
which gives &quot;la&#39;e di&#39;u smuni zo di&#39;ai si zo blablabla&quot=
;.<br>
<br>
Since &quot;si&quot; will delete &quot;zo di&#39;ai&quot;, then B gets what=
 they wanted.<br>
That&#39;s what I meant by a trick with SI.<br>
<br>
But I now realise there&#39;s a problem with that too. What if B said<br>
&quot;di&#39;ai&quot; by mistake, and he wanted to delete it? Now B&#39;s t=
ext will be<br>
construed as continuing A&#39;s, and B has no way out of it. I suppose B<br=
>
has to resort to &quot;fa&#39;o&quot; then to get out of A&#39;s text.<br>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
</div></blockquote></div><br>I thought the working of the &quot;continue ju=
fra&quot; cmavo was that it would be removed from the result, so that<br><b=
r>A: la&#39;e di&#39;u smuni zo<br>B: di&#39;ai blablabla<br><br>becomes<br=
>
<br>la&#39;edi&#39;u smuni zo blablabla<br><br>If di&#39;ai deletes itself,=
 the problem would be keeping it from doing so, not what you&#39;re describ=
ing.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.a&#39=
;o.e&#39;e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d=
o zo&#39;o<br>
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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